Hope it works out for you.
I'm leaving for Benning on Monday. Is there any G-2 youd like to share?
Going home on con leave, sitrep to follow
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Thanks for the SITREP. Let those bones completely heal! Use those 30 days to study up on your memorization skills and re-uniting with family. Don't go do stuff that will aggravate your injury. Glad to hear you didn't take the discharge. 
Get well soon and go back and kick ass!
RLTW
EP
Get well soon and go back and kick ass!RLTW
EP
Always remember: BROS BEFORE HOES.
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PaleHorseRider
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Ranger Badmuther, EPTS is when you get discharged from basic for an injury that exsisted prior to service. Happend to the guy I joined with on the buddy program. Had something wrong with a valve in his heart, kept passing out in formation. Don't know what the other one is though.
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Thanks PHR.PaleHorseRider wrote:Ranger Badmuther, EPTS is when you get discharged from basic for an injury that exsisted prior to service. Happend to the guy I joined with on the buddy program. Had something wrong with a valve in his heart, kept passing out in formation. Don't know what the other one is though.
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FireFinder
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Ranger BadMuther:
ELS is Entry Level Separation.
PTRP is Physical Training and Rehabilitation Program
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/joiningup/a/dep_2.htm
An ELS is not characterized. It's not "Honorable," it's not "General," it's not "Under Other Than Honorable," it's not anything. DEP Discharges do not result in an RE (Reenlistment Eligibility) Code that will prevent joining the same (or another) military service in the future. but it will require a waiver and you probably won't be eligible for all the good contract options.
PaleHorseRider:
Google is your friend (search terms were: ELS "discharge" & PTRP "Army"). You could have displayed some initiative there and found the answer instead of answering "I don't know"/
ELS is Entry Level Separation.
PTRP is Physical Training and Rehabilitation Program
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/joiningup/a/dep_2.htm
An ELS is not characterized. It's not "Honorable," it's not "General," it's not "Under Other Than Honorable," it's not anything. DEP Discharges do not result in an RE (Reenlistment Eligibility) Code that will prevent joining the same (or another) military service in the future. but it will require a waiver and you probably won't be eligible for all the good contract options.
PaleHorseRider:
Google is your friend (search terms were: ELS "discharge" & PTRP "Army"). You could have displayed some initiative there and found the answer instead of answering "I don't know"/
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11C (4.2" Mortar) CSC 2/124INF, FLARNG (1988-1989)
11C (4.2" Mortar) CSC 2/124INF, FLARNG (1988-1989)
Sounds like a similar story to me. Since RIP I had some injury (can't remember the name), where the inner muscle thats around the lower tibia began to slowly tear off the bone. I went on profile numerous times and of course broke it cause I knew I could suck it up. Eventually that muscle tore off so much I started getting stress reactions which lead to stress fracture. Even with those I still managed to pass LEGs in PT and do all of EIB with it.
I was finally put in a cast which was a big mistake on the medics part. That just made my muscles and bones weaker, so when I started walking again I actually got more stress fractures. I even had a stress reaction in my femur. This made the PA go apeshit so they ran like a billion blood tests and bone scans on me. After about 6 months of testing, their conclusion was "Erm, drink more milk?". Of course the answer all along was "lay off your fucking leg". After about 2.5 years now I'm still recovering from it. Only excessive running seems to bother it now so I mainly stick to stationary cardio and swimming.
All in all though I'd have to say that sucking it up and breaking my profile was the right decision, but a rare one. Showing my CoC that I could suck it up till I was unable to do anymore kept in me where I was at and it gained me a lot of respect. Its questionable if thats right in other eyes. Just remember, pain does not equal agony.
I was finally put in a cast which was a big mistake on the medics part. That just made my muscles and bones weaker, so when I started walking again I actually got more stress fractures. I even had a stress reaction in my femur. This made the PA go apeshit so they ran like a billion blood tests and bone scans on me. After about 6 months of testing, their conclusion was "Erm, drink more milk?". Of course the answer all along was "lay off your fucking leg". After about 2.5 years now I'm still recovering from it. Only excessive running seems to bother it now so I mainly stick to stationary cardio and swimming.
All in all though I'd have to say that sucking it up and breaking my profile was the right decision, but a rare one. Showing my CoC that I could suck it up till I was unable to do anymore kept in me where I was at and it gained me a lot of respect. Its questionable if thats right in other eyes. Just remember, pain does not equal agony.
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bberkley wrote:ELS is Entry Level Separation.
PTRP is Physical Training and Rehabilitation Program
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/joiningup/a/dep_2.htm
An ELS is not characterized. It's not "Honorable," it's not "General," it's not "Under Other Than Honorable," it's not anything. DEP Discharges do not result in an RE (Reenlistment Eligibility) Code that will prevent joining the same (or another) military service in the future. but it will require a waiver and you probably won't be eligible for all the good contract options.
Google is your friend (search terms were: ELS "discharge" & PTRP "Army").
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YOU JUST MAKE SURE YOU DON'T DO NOTHING STUPID BY TRYIN TO BE HARDCORE. SIT YOUR ASS DOWN, PUT THAT SHIN SPLINT BACK ON, HEAL UP AND DRIVE ON WHEN THE TIME COMES.
GLAD TO HEAR YOU DIDN'T QUIT, WE ALL KNOW YOU GOT BALLS, THE HARDEST THING FOR A WARRIOR TO DO IS SIT DOWN AND HEAL. SO FIGHT THE EGO, FOLLOW YOUR DOCTORS ORDERS, DRINK PLENTY OF MILK AND GET AS MUCH PUTANG AS YOU CAN.
GLAD TO HEAR YOU DIDN'T QUIT, WE ALL KNOW YOU GOT BALLS, THE HARDEST THING FOR A WARRIOR TO DO IS SIT DOWN AND HEAL. SO FIGHT THE EGO, FOLLOW YOUR DOCTORS ORDERS, DRINK PLENTY OF MILK AND GET AS MUCH PUTANG AS YOU CAN.
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1985 - 1986 75th Inf Ranger Regt
1986 - 1988 3/12 SFG (ABN)
The strength of the pack is the Wolf... and the strength of the Wolf is the pack...
1985 - 1986 75th Inf Ranger Regt
1986 - 1988 3/12 SFG (ABN)
The strength of the pack is the Wolf... and the strength of the Wolf is the pack...
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the_machine
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I agree with Ranger EarthPig here. Use the time to heal up, touch base with your family and go over your knowledge skills.EarthPig wrote:Thanks for the SITREP. Let those bones completely heal! Use those 30 days to study up on your memorization skills and re-uniting with family. Don't go do stuff that will aggravate your injury. Glad to hear you didn't take the discharge.
RLTW
EP
Good luck!
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Why did I re-enlist?...the scenery changes, the pay is good and i get to play with dynamite.
Why did I re-enlist?...the scenery changes, the pay is good and i get to play with dynamite.
Not to rub 'defeat' in your face, but yes....those scores will get you killed. That's how the Hadjiis shoot.devilrat35 wrote: I only qualified Marksman so I'm dissapointed about that, I need to work on that a lot since 23 out of 40 in combat I'm sure will get me or my buddy killed...
The Army qualification courses are a joke. Seriously! You should be able to score expert in every weapon you pick up. I maxed the cheesy pistol course left-handed. I'm not trying to cut you down, just stating a fact. Go watch some of these SWAT guys qualify....totally different animal.
Here are some things you can do, while you're home, that will fit right into your PT profile. Get your hands on a rifle. If you don't have one, borrow one...or purchase a cheap BB gun. It doesn't really matter what kind or what caliber. Every time you touch that sucker, MAKE SURE IT IS UNLOADED. Every time!
Practice your trigger squeeze, breathing control, and proper sight picture while your laying around watching TV. My guess is that you are 'pulling' your shots, anticipating the "BOOM." If you want to really test yourself, balance a penny on the end of the barrel, just behind the front sight post. You should be able to squeeze off a shot (dry firing of course, because your weapon is EMPTY), without letting the penny fall.
Do this for a couple hours each day. Practice doing it in different positions: standing, kneeling, sitting, prone, missionary (huh?).
Your trigger squeeze should be a smooth, flowing movement...not a jerking motion.
Focus on your front sight...not on the target....not on the rear sight. Line up your rear sight, front sight post, and target. Keep both eyes open. Use your dominant eye to sight with. The other eye helps 'pull security' in your peripheral vision.
Use good breathing control. As you get ready to squeeze the trigger, let your breath out slowly. This will help eliminate any movement caused by your lungs/ chest expanding and contracting.
The M16 does NOT kick. You might think it does, but it doesn't. Go shoot a 7mm Mag or a 10 gauge shotgun....those kick. The M16 should be like shooting a .22. You still want to pull it into your shoulder, however.
In short, you need to be completely proficient with your weapon. It is THE tool that you will use in your new job. You need to be able to deploy it rapidly, place accurate shots in the kill zone, as well as maintain it.
It's too bad Creeping Death is out of pocket. I'm sure our Sniper Guru could give you many more useful tips than I've offered here. You might shoot him a PM in a couple days. Good luck.
RLTW
EP
PS: I can't stress enough the need for firearms safety. Make damned sure your rifle is empty before playing with it indoors. Point it at the bad guys on TV (Kerry), not at Mom or the dog........
Always remember: BROS BEFORE HOES.