Teen shot over vandalized McCain sign

42L5V · Post by **42L5V** » October 29th, 2008, 6:26 am

(CNN) -- A Warren Township, Ohio, man faces charges of felonious assault after authorities say he fired his rifle at two teens who were attempting to deface his McCain presidential campaign yard sign. Police say the man's sign is the only McCain sign on a street full of Obama signs.

Kenneth Rowles, 50, pleaded not guilty to the charge Monday, according to CNN affiliate WBNS. Bail was set at $10,000.

Rowles told police he was sitting on his porch Saturday when a tan SUV pulled up and a black youth jumped out and ran toward his house, screaming, "This is for Obama." He said another male was hanging out of the passenger window screaming the same thing.

Rowles said he went inside, got his rifle and fired three shots to scare the youths away, according to a Warren Township police report. He told officers he believes that the men "were the same two that have been destroying his McCain sign."

Just hours before the shooting, Rowles called police and said that a car had stopped in front of his house and that a black male "ran up and said something about Obama," according to the report, and "damaged his sign again."

One of the youths, 17-year-old Kyree Flowers, was shot in the arm, according to a police report. He and the second youth, Patrick Wise Jr., 16, told police they were in the car attempting to leave when Rowles fired at them.

"Kyree stated that he witnessed the homeowner trying to shoot Patrick but he was having trouble chambering a round," the police report said.

The teens admitted that they had defaced the McCain sign several times, Warren Township police Lt. Don Bishop told CNN. Rowles' is the only McCain sign on a street full of Obama signs, he said. Bishop said the teenagers probably will not be charged -- and are unlikely to damage campaign signs again, as the incident scared them.

Warren Township is in Trumbull County not far from Cleveland, Ohi

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/28/yar ... pstoryview

Horned Toad · Post by **Horned Toad** » October 29th, 2008, 8:03 am

Sounds like the 2nd Amendment protecting the 1st.

Flesh Thorn · Post by **Flesh Thorn** » October 29th, 2008, 8:14 am

Bishop said the teenagers probably will not be charged -- and are unlikely to damage campaign signs again, as the incident scared them.

See what properly applied corrective action can accomplish.

BadMuther · Post by **BadMuther** » October 29th, 2008, 9:39 am

Flesh Thorn wrote:
Bishop said the teenagers probably will not be charged -- and are unlikely to damage campaign signs again, as the incident scared them.
See what properly applied corrective action can accomplish.

"This is for Obama" could mean a lot of things. Especially with someone running at you and screaming it. At the least they should have charged those idiots too.

Silverback · Post by **Silverback** » October 29th, 2008, 9:41 am

BadMuther wrote:
Flesh Thorn wrote:
Bishop said the teenagers probably will not be charged -- and are unlikely to damage campaign signs again, as the incident scared them.
See what properly applied corrective action can accomplish.
"This is for Obama" could mean a lot of things. Especially with someone running at you and screaming it. At the least they should have charged those idiots too.

You might want to bleach your hood for the next meeting

Earthpig · Post by **Earthpig** » October 29th, 2008, 9:42 am

I think the homeowner's bullets should be redistributed into the arms of his neighbors.

RLTW
EP

Rock Island Ranger · October 29th, 2008, 9:43 am

Silverback wrote:
BadMuther wrote:
Flesh Thorn wrote: See what properly applied corrective action can accomplish.
"This is for Obama" could mean a lot of things. Especially with someone running at you and screaming it. At the least they should have charged those idiots too.
You might want to bleach your hood for the next meeting

King of the one liners strikes again.

BadMuther · Post by **BadMuther** » October 29th, 2008, 9:53 am

Silverback wrote:
BadMuther wrote:
Flesh Thorn wrote: See what properly applied corrective action can accomplish.
"This is for Obama" could mean a lot of things. Especially with someone running at you and screaming it. At the least they should have charged those idiots too.
You might want to bleach your hood for the next meeting

Seriously, they are on the guys property running and screaming at him. The dude is probably older then Andy.

Rock Island Ranger · October 29th, 2008, 9:59 am

BadMuther wrote:
Silverback wrote:
BadMuther wrote: "This is for Obama" could mean a lot of things. Especially with someone running at you and screaming it. At the least they should have charged those idiots too.
You might want to bleach your hood for the next meeting
Seriously, they are on the guys property running and screaming at him. The dude is probably older then Andy.

Then Im surprized he could even see far enough to determine they were trashing his sign....much less hear them. We all know us elders are deaf and blind.

Fucking DICK!

BadMuther · Post by **BadMuther** » October 29th, 2008, 10:08 am

Rock Island Ranger wrote:
BadMuther wrote:
Silverback wrote: You might want to bleach your hood for the next meeting
Seriously, they are on the guys property running and screaming at him. The dude is probably older then Andy.
Then Im surprized he could even see far enough to determine they were trashing his sign....much less hear them. We all know us elders are deaf and blind.

Fucking DICK!

Hence why he only got hit in the arm! Prolly using a shotgun!

Looon · Post by **Looon** » October 29th, 2008, 10:29 am

Rock Island Ranger wrote:
BadMuther wrote:
Silverback wrote: You might want to bleach your hood for the next meeting
Seriously, they are on the guys property running and screaming at him. The dude is probably older then Andy.
Then Im surprized he could even see far enough to determine they were trashing his sign....much less hear them. We all know us elders are deaf and blind.

Fucking DICK!

Silverback · Post by **Silverback** » October 29th, 2008, 10:37 am

BadMuther wrote:
Silverback wrote:
BadMuther wrote: "This is for Obama" could mean a lot of things. Especially with someone running at you and screaming it. At the least they should have charged those idiots too.
You might want to bleach your hood for the next meeting
Seriously, they are on the guys property running and screaming at him. The dude is probably older then Andy.

"On the guy's property" does not constitute use of deadly force.

BadMuther · Post by **BadMuther** » October 29th, 2008, 10:41 am

Silverback wrote:
BadMuther wrote:
Silverback wrote: You might want to bleach your hood for the next meeting
Seriously, they are on the guys property running and screaming at him. The dude is probably older then Andy.
"On the guy's property" does not constitute use of deadly force.

Agreed, but why not charge the pricks that started the whole thing in the first place???

Silverback · Post by **Silverback** » October 29th, 2008, 10:43 am

BadMuther wrote:
Silverback wrote:"On the guy's property" does not constitute use of deadly force.
Agreed, but why not charge the pricks that started the whole thing in the first place???

Because they (this is borrowed from one of my other posts) have entered the "Victim zone".

Black 6 · Post by **Black 6** » October 29th, 2008, 6:10 pm

Silverback wrote:
BadMuther wrote:
Silverback wrote: You might want to bleach your hood for the next meeting
Seriously, they are on the guys property running and screaming at him. The dude is probably older then Andy.
"On the guy's property" does not constitute use of deadly force.

It would in my world.