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Not much for introductions,

Pleasure to be hear and I love reading the Posers Section.

If I did this right My signature should pop up and have all of my information.

If not I'll probably get peered before the initial assault.

And if that is the case then let me submit this........I did not write it, nor can I verify who did indeed write this, I received it in an email from friends, but if anyone knows the name at the end of this.... "It Surely Sounds Like Something He'd say."

More Importantly!! It's well worth the read!

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First of all as you well know I have a different perspective on what
senior CSM’s should be doing. Leading by example starts at the top. I
believe they should be chief trainers, not politicians who are interested in
working at higher levels, but totally dedicated to training soldiers for war.
There is only one way this is accomplished, and that is to lead by example.
The SMA has the perfect opportunity to do this on a grand scale At this time
I would like to point out that this is not a bad mouthing session of the SMA,
or previous SMA’s. They received their marching orders, and followed
them to a tee. The SMA’s boss the Chief of Staff of the Army should support
him in every effort to continually visit, and train with soldiers. The SMA
should have to be Airborne qualified so he can execute parachute operations,
and perform Jump Master duties with airborne units. The following is my
concept of Lead by Example.

First of all I would never serve under a Commander who does not
support me traveling to units and training with them. My words to the Army
would be drive on, do nothing special, and I need a basic load of ammunition if
you’re conducting live fires. I will be spending 3 days in the
field with you. I am not coming to tell you how to fry eggs, but hopefully be of
assistance. When the head of the horse trains with troops, and lives
in the dirt with them he can speak, and all will listen. When the head of
the horse flounders the body suffers. The philosophy of I have done all that,
or I am to old is horse doo, doo. If that’s the case than you have no
business in the Army. I also would be deployable as in going to war with the main
effort. If unit x is jumping into country x to execute a live mission
then I should be the first man out the door locked and loaded. If you
can’t face fear, then why should your subordinate soldiers, or other senior
trainers? I would be another rifleman with a squad not the squad leader. This
inspires soldiers, and you can be of great assistance. Oh you say you are
doing the unit CSM’s job. ABSOLUTELY NOT. Hopefully I would be invited out
of respect. My mission would be to support all trainers, not do their mission for
them. They are perfectly capable of that with the right leadership. Doing
the above gives you the ability to inform your commander of the real
deal. When you leave that unit you make damn sure the Commander, and CSM knows
exactly what will be said to your boss. If you ever eat cheese on a Commander
or NCO you have lost total credibility.

Moral courage is an absolute requirement for leaders. This can be
painful. You may be telling your Commander what he doesn’t want to hear. If
he is a good leader he will listen. You had better have a recommendation.
Remember as SMA the soldiers belong to you. Commanders command. They make the
final decisions. This also takes moral courage. Yes men bring nothing but
discredit upon units. They are self- servers who aspire to them
selves, and soldiers suffer for it. When training with units I would ensure that
the leadership is given due credit. For example make sure you let the
soldiers of that unit know that their leaders are competent. This is
reinforced with the relief of sub standard leaders Officers, and NCO’s. The SMA
nor the Chief of Staff should not tolerate sub standard leadership at any
level.
The Chief of staff should put an order out immediately that informs
Commanders at all levels that they are to relieve subordinates
immediately if they are sub standard performers whether they are Officers or
NCO’s. He should immediately get rid of all paper work requirements to do this.
You are promoted with special trust and confidence. If this is the case
why do leaders have to write books about sub standard performers to
eliminate them from the service? Your word is either good or it isn’t. Let’s
stop covering our asses with paper. Let the cry- babies cry all the way to the
gate. Right now we bend over backwards for perverts, and bums while everyone else
suffers. I would STRONGLY recommend getting rid of sensitivity
training. If a soldier is fat or goes down town, and punches some dirt bag its see
you around. If you’re a pervert, and brag about it we will have
sensitivity classes to protect you. If you have a chip on your shoulder, and want
to be a victim we will help you with that. We will pit you against each
other. The Army of One. ME, ME, ME screw everybody else. Political correctness is
sickening. The word supervisor needs to be eliminated! We are
leaders! Let’s have an Army of Warriors! OOOOH that would scare people. You bet it
would. It would scare away the self-servers who have no interest in serving
their country. The Army is not supposed to be an experiment for the liberal
cause.
WAKE UP!

Basic training needs to be segregated. Co-ed basic doesn’t work.
We have already proven that. Men and women are different, and when you put
them all together in these situations things are going to happen. I am in no
way defending the disobeying of current regulations. All I am saying is
lets not complicate things for everyone. I would also recommend that if we are
going to use the term equal then let’s make it equal. The same standards
for everyone. Right now equal means one standard for women, and another
for men. I know the liberal answer for this is we have the same standards for
men, and we have the same standards for women. If that is the case then
segregate the two. I am now labeled a chauvinist pig, and probably a homo
phoebe.
Isn’t it strange liberal leadership has a label for everyone who
disagrees with them, but if you do that as a conservative you are mean spirited.
(DOUBLE STANDARDS!) GET RID OF DOUBLE STANDARDS! The Army is not
around to please everyone. It’s not a place for just anybody. OH NO I just
said that everyone can not be a soldier. That’s right that’s what I said.
Some bodies feelings might get hurt. Of course our enemies would never hurt any
ones feelings would they? Lets quit carrying cards around in our pockets
for stress. Let’s train people to be SOLDIERS. Let’s get their
undivided attention, and make them perform to standard, or go back to the
block. Let’s make D&C a critical task. (15 count manual of arms) It would be a
shame if we could march, and shoot. We might have discipline, coordination,
and the ability to kill the enemy. Leadership, and good hard realistic
training makes good soldiers. It inspires them to reenlist. Hats, gimmicks, and
gadgets do not. Prompt obedience is not robotic. You screw around on
the battlefield, and you die. Hesitation kills people. If we have leaders
who don’t know what a legal order is then get rid of their ass.
Leaders lead, and followers follow, and learn to be good leaders.

I would recommend getting rid of up or out. Everyone is not going to
be a good leader. This was another feel good deal. I can hear it now.
Everyone in our Army is a future leader. Bull shit. If that were true we
wouldn’t have sub standard training, and personnel who are stripe bearers instead
of being NCO’s. It all goes back to this theory that every body has to feel
good. Soldiers feel good when they have lead by example leaders who provide
hard realistic training. I would let the boss know that liberalism has
destroyed the moral fiber of the Army, and it’s ability to properly instill
discipline into the soldier. Punishment needs to be firm but fair. When necessary
punish the offender. Let the NCO Corp take care of punishment that is
none judicial without having to notify, and beg some high level Commander
to do it. Right now we are in the zero defect mode. One mistake and you are
ruined. That is robotic! Working a soldier in the evening, or weekends to
mow grass, clean latrines, inspections or conducting D&C is not
inhumane punishment. I believe in some places it probably is considered that.
The company ISG’s and the CSM are capable of doing this properly
without being micro managed. It’s simple call JAG and they will tell you exactly
what you can do, and what you can’t do. Be smarter than the bears you are
dealing with. Punishment is the best form of rehabilitation. For those drug
offenders, chronically disobedient personnel kick their ass into the
street. I would recommend that BN Commanders be able to do that on one piece
of paper. Numbers do not make a good Army. Well-disciplined, and well-
trained soldiers make a good Army. I would sooner go to war with 300 well
trained, and disciplined soldiers than to go with 600, and half of them are sub
standard.

I would definitely recommend revamping the NCO school system. My
recommendation would be that in order to become a NCO you would have
to be able to train soldiers for war. I would recommend two courses. A
junior NCO course, and a senior NCO course. Ninety percent field training, ten
percent garrison. Light Infantry is the vehicle. What about the females? Again
segregate. They have a separate course run by female NCO’s. These
courses would be run at Division level. To attend the junior course you would
be a SP4 being considered for promotion to Sergeant. During this course
you would be a Corporal. You would be placed in leadership positions up to Squad
leader level. These courses should be 6 weeks in duration.(7 days a
week) if you fail to meet the standard you do not get promoted. That’s
right you would have to be recommended to attend the course again. In order to
attend the senior NCO course you would have to be a SSG being considered by
DA for promotion to the senior ranks. You would perform as a PSG, and ISG.
If you fail to meet the Standard you are no longer considered for promotion.
Yes I said six weeks. No going to college during these courses. These are
courses that are dedicated to weeding out the weak who are not capable of being
leaders. You perform or you don’t. You got it there is no gray area. No SGM
academy. When you are considered for SGM you should by that time know how to
lead, and train soldiers for war. SGM’s don’t need degrees. They
don’t need to be worrying about geo politics, or some other politically correct BS. Oh
you say this guy doesn’t care about education. YES I DO, but the
mission has priority. Do like I did and get with the education center and arrange
for classes in the evening at your unit.

NCO rank needs to be put back on the sleeve where it can be seen. The
class A uniform has too much stuff on it. All we need is our rank, name, war
ribbons, and unit patch. It should be tailored with a belt. The tropical
khaki uniform needs to be brought back into service. We don’t need
umbrellas for men. We don’t need green shirts with ties with your 201 file
on them, and call it class B’s. We need to roll our sleeves up on the
BDU’s instead of going through this process that is conducted now. YOU ROLL YOUR
SLEEVES DOWN BEFORE YOU GET INTO THE FIELD. We don’t need ear plugs
hanging off our duty uniform. Place them in your one -quart canteen cover pocket.
Leaders inspect your soldiers before training is conducted. Yep I can hear it
already "It’s easier to see them if they are hanging on the persons uniform"
It’s not a part of the uniform. Yes uniformity is important just as teamwork
is, and prompt obedience. Don’t start with that robotic garbage.
The only robots I know are liberals. They are lock stepped even if it’s
wrong or against the law. We watched it happen for eight years. Leaders and
their followers are not robotic. That’s why we have AAR’s, and ask
for feed back at appropriate times, and no the heat of battle is not time to be
questioning orders. That’s why we should train for war not peace. Good
leaders have a chain of command that works both ways. Good leaders
are not politically correct. Good leaders are not testing the waters they are
doing what is right even if it hurts. THE SOLDIER COMES FIRST! He is yours
you damn well better take care of him. Every parade should have every unit
conduct the 15-count manual of arms. D&C is the foundation of discipline! If
you can’t march you can’t be a soldier. I can hear you liberals chomping at
the bit. If there is anything you liberals hate is any form of discipline,
and having anyone know the difference between right, and wrong. You
are comfortable in the gray murky area where you can put band- aids on
every thing, control the way people speak, and lets all be equally screwed
up. This way you can pass the buck. If you keep everybody stupid you can
tell them how to vote. Liberal leaders any- where in our military are the
destruction of all that is good. Deep in your heart you know I am right. Yes
Senator Goldwater said that, and he was right.

Referring to enlisted men as an E grade is BS. What would the Officer
say if we referred to them as 01,or 05? How many times have you heard have
that E-5, or E-6 come and see me? Shame on you NCO’s for allowing such
disrespect. On the other hand how many times have you heard the term
LT. There are no LT’s in the Army. They are Lieutenants. This is also
disrespectful. There are no tops in the Army. They are 1st SG’s.
Shame on senior NCO’s that allow these things to occur. We are responsible
for enforcing standards, and discipline. As SMA I would set the example
for others to follow. This has a ripple down effect. Respect is earned
through doing. Talk is cheap. If I had not lead by example I would not write
my feelings on this issue. Those of us that have served realize that we
attained our accomplishments because of the leaders above us, our
peers, and our subordinates. When you start believing you advanced on your own
you have a problem. We advance because of the good soldiers around us. To
be a leader you have to have followers. Sorry leaders don’t have
followers. You can be an E grade or an NCO. Take the example from leaders who train
for war. Learn also from the bad ones on what never to be. I have pointed out
just a few things that I would recommend for change. There are many more
pressing issues that I would make recommendations on such as pay, and
benefits. I would like to compliment the SMA on that issue. All have pressed hard
on those issues and I am sure on many other issues involving the enlisted
soldier. The NCO CORP is the back- bone of the Army. It is the back-
bone of the Military. If you are allowing the Officers to perform your duty
shame on you and shame on you SGM’s for allowing that to happen. The
military is the last bastion of moral standards left in our nation. You had better
wake up because the liberals have just about completely destroyed those
standards. Remember you have one large mission, and that’s to train soldiers
for war. This covers a broad spectrum, and it takes your total devotion to God,
country, and family. Your leadership instills that moral character of right,
and wrong so DO IT RIGHT! This mission is not for the weak, or the
faint hearted. No I am not plagiarizing. I put that on the 4th Ranger
Training BN sign. Lets be an ARMY of WARRIORS!


CSM Don Purdy USA RET.


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Post by AbnRgr289 »

Welcome Cco.

We have a few of your compadre's already here.

Was your cherry jump in Bn going into OJC?


Your avatar is fucked up, please do something with that.



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Welcome youngster......your Intro sucked! :evil:
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Welcome to ArmyRanger.com & thanks for your service to our great country as an Army Ranger.


.....oh, and thanks for the headache I got from reading that long intro :roll: :lol:
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Post by 42L5V »

Welcome, Ranger.


As for the rest - TLTR. I need simple sentences or pictures. Preferably boobies... :lol:
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Welcome Ranger.
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Welcome!!

We should know some of the same peeps.
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Welcome...
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Welcome...Fellow Sky Soldier!
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Post by Chiron »

Heraclitus c. 500 B.C.

Of every one-hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are nothing but targets, nine are real fighters...
We are lucky to have them, they make the battle...
AH but ONE, one of them is a Warrior...
he will bring the others back
Heraclitus c. 500 B.C.


Oh and welcome. See what that read inspired me to dig up?
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Post by Rico »

Welcome Brother.
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Welcome!
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for he today that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother!"
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Post by Everett Ruess »

Welcome
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Welcome.
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