France. When will they learn?

[wrestlerbjj]

France. When will they ever learn?

As I write this France is falling into their 9th day of rioting. Over 2000 cars burned and over
30 police officers injured and 2 police officers dead due to handgun attacks.
Who is doing this rioting? The French muslim population who feel they are "mistreated" under the French
Government. This riot proves many major points that people on this board have been advocating for a long time.

The first point in fact is that French police officers and citizens are dying due to the Rioters having handguns.
Handguns? How can that be? Handguns are illegal in France ! THis just goes to show you that banning handguns does not solve a countries problems
with violent crime. It actually makes it worse. Now Law abiding french citizens cannot defend themselves against these rioters because their handguns were taken away from them by the Government in order to promote peace and Non- violence.
We see how well this is working...

The second point is the rioters. Look who is rioting, the Muslim population. Isnt this the same Muslim population that the French tried to please by stopping the United States from taking out the brutal dictator Saddam Hueissen? Oh yea, it is.
Obviously the French have not learned anything from World War 2. The fact that trying to please the Germans by submitting to their demands did not work(America had to save them). Trying to please the socialist libs by stripping away people's rights to own guns obviously does not work either as we can see in these riots.( the death of police officers)
It will only be a matter of time before these riots grow so large and out of control that the French Government will likely ask for the united States help in quelling the riots.

[Runner]

The riots are not tied to the war in Iraq in any way shape or form. North African/ Muslim immigrants moved in from their countries, settled down and had many children. Native Parisians started to discriminate against them (much like the Germans do against the Turkish, if you're up on that. ) Making it hard for them to find jobs and in turn make money. They have been bitter about this for a while, and the straw that broke the camels back was a few days ago when two 14 or 15 year olds ran from the cops when the cops tried to ID them, hid near some transformer type thing and ended up getting electrocuted and dying.

[Choose it for me]

The Europeans have allowed too many Muslims in for their own good. Now they don't know what to do with them, this riot and other problems following it are just one of the many exmaples. The people they let in are animals, complete animals. They do not understand normal and civilized conduct, and didn't come to Europe to improve their manners. They exploited the Europeans' welcome and are just there to find new land and better infrastructure to create themselves a new Arabia. Having allowed so many Muslims in, theres now too many of them and European governments will be unable to deport them no matter how hard they try. This will in the long run be Europe's undoing, where this land over the years will become full of Muslims so they overrun all the Euros and carve themselves a new peice of land. A new chapter will open in world history, with a new Muslim civilization running Europe, with all the whites extinct or a minority. And history will carry on until something new pops up in several centuries or so.

[RGR_Dan]

Leave well enough alone! This is a win win situation for us, the french die and the rioters die.

[Southern_Brit]

Right, where to begin!!

Europe to be taken over by Muslims.... come on

It is true that there has been the migration of many nations in Europe and this has happened on various levels over the last 40 years.
In the Uk, ex-commonwealth countries such as those from the West Indies, India, Pakistan have contributed to people moving over here, mainly in the 1950s and 60s and yes we have a huge muslim population... but they aren't about to take over. There are some that want to have an Islamic state here, there are some that contribute towards racial incitement and those that act like they did on 07/07... but that is 0.001% of the Muslim population and on you can't tar they others with the same brush.
Those that think like that here in the UK are extreme right wing groups...the BNP, Combat 18...look them up - they want all blacks out, all Asians, all jews...
Britain has this diverse population due to its old empire...we explored, invaded, dominated and ruled so many parts of the world and we now have part of that legacy with us here...those people have come over when we opened our doors BUT we opened them when the country was battered after WW2, we were poor, had been bombed to fuck and needed labour, we needed doctors, transport workers, factory workers and those people have helped build the country back up.
Yes, there is a slight problem that many have not intergrated in the muslim community, there is the obvious religion divide and they certainly don't take to the British way of drinking(!)...but we are taking steps to resolve this, certainly after 9/11 and our own attacks....we are ensuring the feel British, feel part of this country and have no reason to do what is happening in Paris
To say they will rise up is ignorant... we had riots in the early 80s, when 2nd generation Black communities felt disassociated and seperate...unemployment was high and they were living in poverty and feeling discriminated against (sound familiar...exactly like France now) -
we didn't fear they'd rise up and take over!
Immigartion as a whole is being discussed here as Europes' borders relax and security is an issue but we certainly do not think that the UK or even Europe is under threat...do not confuse the events in France as the 'first wave' or anything more than socio-economic riots.

[Southern_Brit]

Also - just found out the following:-

1) The rioters are not all muslim (approx 50% are )

2) The Rioters bear more allegiance to their quatier (gang) than to some politico-religious creed

3)Their main demand is to be left alone by the police so they can continue thier low level drug trading and inter gang violence.

4)The notion that the gangs are being controlled by Islamic overlords has been deemed 'ridiculous' by social workers and senior police officers.

5)There is inter gang violence so the rioters are not presenting a united front.

6)Most of the rioters are aged between 17-22 and are involved in semi permenant gang violence and drug dealing

[SkyShark]

Leave well enough alone! This is a win win situation for us, the french die and the rioters die.

[Choose it for me]

It is true that there has been the migration of many nations in Europe and this has happened on various levels over the last 40 years.......1950s and 60s and yes we have a huge muslim population... but they aren't about to take over.

Based on the large amounts of them coming, the typical family size (several kids per family), and the many more yet to come, I think there are going to be some major changes in changes in Europe. This time period, say 50-60 years, is nothing compared to history overall. Over the next century, two, or hell even three, Europe will be overflown with Muslims/Arabs. They will push all the whites out. That is the reality. The period for Europeans/Caucasians is already winding down to an end. But on the other side, the population for Muslim countries, especially in the Middle Eastern region, is dense and increasing. They aren't exactly having man-woman or three person families, they're having several kids a pop. Sometimes a man has more than one wife--so he has kids with the others as well. And they don't look like they'll be stopping any time soon. Not saying it'll happen over night, but this is the world's future prospects.

Alot of people are also looking at this wrongly "oh no! Evil Bush, Oil, Iraq, terrorism" blah, blah, blah. Think about it.......all this Iraq, Afghanistan, GWOT, angry Muslims, mass immigration is just the beginning. Too many people are looking at this in the short-term and panicking. They don't realize this is just a small period in the world's history. Theres several centuries yet to come, this is the prospect. This is what will turn out. Someday in a thousand years or so people will be reading the history books of our history and saying "yep this is what happened when this....and this is what happened when that" " there was mass migration that turned into a civiliz.......evetually formed into what we have to day......yes quite some significant changes.....blabidy blabidy blah"

Guess its just another day in the history books.

[Silverback]

The Europeans have allowed too many Muslims in for their own good. Now they don't know what to do with them, this riot and other problems following it are just one of the many exmaples. The people they let in are animals, complete animals. They do not understand normal and civilized conduct, and didn't come to Europe to improve their manners. They exploited the Europeans' welcome and are just there to find new land and better infrastructure to create themselves a new Arabia. Having allowed so many Muslims in, theres now too many of them and European governments will be unable to deport them no matter how hard they try. This will in the long run be Europe's undoing, where this land over the years will become full of Muslims so they overrun all the Euros and carve themselves a new peice of land. A new chapter will open in world history, with a new Muslim civilization running Europe, with all the whites extinct or a minority. And history will carry on until something new pops up in several centuries or so.

When will you learn to shut the fuck up?

Damn Snafu...I've been waiting!

[Nomad]

The riots are not tied to the war in Iraq in any way shape or form. North African/ Muslim immigrants moved in from their countries, settled down and had many children. Native Parisians started to discriminate against them (much like the Germans do against the Turkish, if you're up on that. )

You don't understand the first thing about discrimination of Muslims in Europe. It is not that they are discriminated against, it is that they seclude themselves and only interact with each other. They despise all others who aren't muslims, barely learn the language of their hostcountry and generally set the pace for not completing school and becoming massive criminals. Take it from someone who grew up in a neighborhood that had very few non-muslims.
Although I think you are an exceptionally bright kid, you are very naive Malarkey. Eventually your blinders will be taken off.

[Nomad]

Right, where to begin!!

Europe to be taken over by Muslims.... come on

Europe is about as likely to be taken over by the muslims as the US is by the hispanic population. The media is obviously getting the desired effect from their stories....

[Nomad]

Based on the large amounts of them coming, the typical family size (several kids per family), and the many more yet to come, I think there are going to be some major changes in changes in Europe. This time period, say 50-60 years, is nothing compared to history overall. Over the next century, two, or hell even three, Europe will be overflown with Muslims/Arabs. They will push all the whites out. That is the reality. The period for Europeans/Caucasians is already winding down to an end.

Wow, are you related to David Koresh?

[Choose it for me]

The riots are not tied to the war in Iraq in any way shape or form. North African/ Muslim immigrants moved in from their countries, settled down and had many children. Native Parisians started to discriminate against them (much like the Germans do against the Turkish, if you're up on that. ) Making it hard for them to find jobs and in turn make money. They have been bitter about this for a while, and the straw that broke the camels back was a few days ago when two 14 or 15 year olds ran from the cops when the cops tried to ID them, hid near some transformer type thing and ended up getting electrocuted and dying.

Regarding those Germans, they're not only discriminatory to Turks. Many people don't pay attention to this because its kept a low profile, but it still happens. They are still a very nationalistic country. People immigrating there are told outright in their faces that they are diffirent, they are not German, Fuck You etc... This supposedly from a country thats been neutered after WWII. "Yez, Yez, vee love everzbodeee. We are ehh very progrezeeeeev, modzern, Evropean Natzion"