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The Federal Marshall SWAT Team has a base at Camp Beauregard Louisiana (outside Pineville) Fast roping became a "thang" and believe or not, we actually got to do that in the SRT training. I did wear gloves.
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h8train1/75 wrote:
Steadfast wrote:In RVN I was sent by 2nd BGDE HHC LRRP's to Division's K/75th Pre-Recondo School where Rappelling was one thing I learned to do. However, I never rappelled into the jungle. I sure would have liked to do that fast ropping. Looks easy and gets you to the ground pronto! One thing I'de like to ask you guys is did you ever fast rope wearing an ruck with 80 to 100 lbs of gear plus your LBE & Rifle? I would think that slowing down with all that weight would be near impossible.
Slowing down is impossible. Just hold on for dear life and hope the pilot doesn't move the ropes off the top of the building. You always need the be ready to do a proper PLF when fast roping. :wink:
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Nice pic Spartan. Was this at an Airshow? In Nevada or Irac. Since there is but one fast roper visible.....it makes me wonder.
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The number of ropes we use is all dependent on terrain. On that we would use 2. Actually we would land. It is faster to land and dismount on that type of ground.
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We use the fast rope option on SRT....but....we are looking to get away from it. We are working with a dude who has designed a new rappel device called the Tactical Rappel Device (TRD), which allows multiple dudes to be attached to the rope (a 7mm Kermantle as opposed to the 11mm) and upon hitting the ground, you simply hit the spring loaded release and the rope drops out. All of this can be accomplished with one hand.

This device was created by requests from NAVSPECWAR due to them wanting to get away from fastroping. The engineer said that SOCOM and AFCOM also are wanting to get away from it due to the high number of injuries.

I will post a pic of the device and rope tomorrow (when I get to the office). 120ft of rope weighs 3 lbs. Kevlar rope with a nomex sheeth.

Fast roping was cool without 200 lbs of shit on you.
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I loved rappeling, it was some fun shit. Fastropeing looks like it would work a lot better. What's the max altitude for a Fastrope?
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Slowpoke wrote:I loved rappeling, it was some fun shit. Fastropeing looks like it would work a lot better. What's the max altitude for a Fastrope?
With or without rope? :wink:
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I dont want to piss on anybody's bonfire, but UKSF started fastroping during a little known operation in Malaya in 1959. They used to insert the patrols into the triple-canopy by parachute. The guys would HOPEFULLY land in the trees without killing themselves, then sling a rope from the tree and slide down. For obvious reasons, this practice was scrapped after a couple of operations.

When the 60's came along, the Regiment started to fast-rope teams from helis into the jungle in Borneo, and this tactic was used extensively due to the lack of suitable LSs (LZs to you guys. lol)

Hence the inclusion in a Bond movie, i would think.
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BadMuther wrote:
Slowpoke wrote:I loved rappeling, it was some fun shit. Fastropeing looks like it would work a lot better. What's the max altitude for a Fastrope?
With or without rope? :wink:
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Tactical Rappel Device (TRD) designed by Kent Saucedo

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100 ft 7mm Rope in bag....weighs approx 3lbs.

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Desert Sloth wrote:Image

Tactical Rappel Device (TRD) designed by Kent Saucedo

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100 ft 7mm Rope in bag....weighs approx 3lbs.

If you all have any qestions, Kent Saucedo is lurking around and can answer them.......and don't be soft on him either......HE OWES ME!!
I saw Kent Saucedo name before, he just joined up but didn't post. He's using his real name DS?
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Steadfast wrote: I saw Kent Saucedo name before, he just joined up but didn't post. He's using his real name DS?
Yes sir. He sent me a PM awhile ago......Kent, answer up!!
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That looks really cool. We tied a "Swiss Seat" with a sling rope and a climbing rope weighed a ton. I'm with Ranger Bell, I love technology!
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DS, did I understand you correctly in that multiple guys can rappel down the same rope, at the same time? I know that normal rappel devices (racks, figure 8's, etc) will actually make the guy brake if weighted from below (belay, duh...). How does this device accomplish the task?

Fastroping can blow me.....along with whomever invented it. :x
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