Bash McCain's military record

rgrokelley · Post by **rgrokelley** » July 1st, 2008, 5:49 am

What tactic do you use, if your candidate has no military experience, and he seems to loathe the military?

Discredit the military record of your opponent.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/ ... tpop_story

Oh, do it through surrogates and then deny that you had anything to do with it.

RTO · Post by **RTO** » July 1st, 2008, 6:11 am

More than likely what will end up happening if Obama ends up POTUS is a lot of our best 'career military' and good young experienced kids that may have considered a career in the military will end up getting out.

rgrokelley · Post by **rgrokelley** » July 1st, 2008, 6:16 am

RTO wrote:More than likely what will end up happening if Obama ends up POTUS is a lot of our best 'career military' and good young experienced kids that may have considered a career in the military will end up getting out.

A lot of us got out during Clinton's reign. I hit 20 years, didn't see any real purpose for what we were doing (repeatedly going to Africa for ACRI), so I figured there was something better I could be doing.

Obama can best be described as the 21st century Jimmy Carter. During Carter's presidency the same thing happened. My dad retired from Special Forces during that time, because he was just disgusted with what Carter was doing. When Carter told the world about Delta / Blue Light teams, my dad just about had a conniption fit!

Ranger Bill · Post by **Ranger Bill** » July 1st, 2008, 7:18 am

No disrespect to the man's rank, but Clark needs to learn that he has no business belittling McCain's service. Clark has relegated himself to being just another retired general with a big mouth.

Silverback · Post by **Silverback** » July 1st, 2008, 7:25 am

Ranger Bill wrote:No disrespect to the man's rank, but Clark needs to learn that he has no business belittling McCain's service. Clark has relegated himself to being just another retired general with a big mouth.

His Rank??? Wesley Clark is interested in one thing and one thing only...getting a job! Once he realized that he had no hope of attaining the Presidency he became a liberal thug. Didn't the General get fired?

Silverback · Post by **Silverback** » July 1st, 2008, 8:42 am

TC204 wrote:Wesley Clark has no business bashing McCain, Clark was in command of the Army units that were at Waco Texas.

Where did you get this information from?

Here is where I got mine.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/gi/dynamic/o ... /99133.pdf

CloakAndDagger · Post by **CloakAndDagger** » July 1st, 2008, 8:53 am

I've known many in MI that served under (and had to brief, etc.) General Clark during the height of the Bosnia days. They universally thought he was a liberal hack and a waste of oxygen, even the ones who were liberal leaning themselves.

Flesh Thorn · Post by **Flesh Thorn** » July 1st, 2008, 9:23 am

Can I interest you in a slightly used aluminum foil cap ?

Silverback · Post by **Silverback** » July 1st, 2008, 9:55 am

TC204 wrote:
Silverback wrote:
TC204 wrote:Wesley Clark has no business bashing McCain, Clark was in command of the Army units that were at Waco Texas.
Where did you get this information from?

Here is where I got mine.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/gi/dynamic/o ... /99133.pdf
Page not found.

I'm sure this could just be viewed as rhetoric, but the facts are clear. Wesley Clark was in charge of III Corps, III Corps tanks were used in the final siege. And finally, Congress didn't approve the raid. Only a meeting between Clark, Reno and the Justice Dept took place.
Only U.S. Marines and Navy are exempt from Posse Comitatus.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=35094

Worldnet daily is a non-source! I am not sure why a link won't work but if you like I can send you the GAO report about the supposed military involvement at Waco.

EDITED TO ADD Try this link

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/ns00240r.pdf

Silverback · Post by **Silverback** » July 1st, 2008, 10:12 am

I heard Clark was a sniper at Ruby Ridge

Ranger Bill · Post by **Ranger Bill** » July 1st, 2008, 10:17 am

Clark was relieved of command in Bosnia. I believe much of the stuff on the Internet about his involvement in Waco is a hoax.

Silverback · Post by **Silverback** » July 1st, 2008, 10:20 am

Ranger Bill wrote:Clark was relieved of command in Bosnia. I believe much of the stuff on the Internet about his involvement in Waco is a hoax.

Not a hoax, it's true that Clark commanded 1st Cavalry division at the time of the incident but his involvement would be best described as tertiary.