Study: Gays Don't Harm Unit Cohesion

[Silverback]

Hey bud,
You should look up the definition of Sodomy before you call someone a Sodomite! Because chances are you have participated in acts of Sodomy.

And if you haven't....you're probably gay.

[testedone]

Ranger PocketKings,

Maybe I don't understand where you are coming from but in my life I have dealt with this argument before.

It goes something like this,

Argument

If we stop or allow this behavior or action XXX, then we have to stop or allow behavior or action YYY

So lets not put restrictions or rules on these of these natures (sodomy, religious intolerance etc..etc..)


My Counter

The problem with the view in the argument above is that we don't want to offend anyone or anything, so what happens is we open the flood gates to all things.

So we allow sodomites to practice openly in the service, then the NAMBLA boy lovers want their rights respected, then the dog F***ers, etc..etc..

You see we in the United States of America have a heritage we were founded upon and there is a moral standard, some may not like it, but it is a standard, the problem in America is we are trying to change America to fit everyone's whim and desire....This is America, look back through history at what we are founded upon.

But let's say someone does not buy the whole "we are founded upon etc..etc.."

It still comes down to having a standard, what is the standard....is the standard that we allow all things and anything to go? That's not a standard, that's chaos or what is being pushed now days relativism - if it doesn't hurt me then it's ok if you do it....

I am sure many of you have seen over the years how the military has declined becuase of the lowering of standards, enforcement is crazy with EO reps looking to bust someone because they say a harsh word (I was spoken to about a friggin cadence I called and some ladies where offended, and some "men" My girl ain't got no skin etc..etc..)


Have a standard, stick to it, enforce it and don't waver in it....[/b]

Hey bud,
You should look up the definition of Sodomy before you call someone a Sodomite! Because chances are you have participated in acts of Sodomy.

yep...I know the definition and have not participated in it.. I just use the definition that does not make it (the act) seem nicer then what it is.

You know they try to make it seem as if it is something it isn't ie. alternative life style, life partner, etc..etc.. instead up what it is..

But I am tracking where you are coming from..

[Silverback]

yep...I know the definition and have not participated in it.. I just use the definition that does not make it (the act) seem nicer then what it is.

You know they try to make it seem as if it is something it isn't ie. alternative life style, life partner, etc..etc.. instead up what it is..

But I am tracking where you are coming from..

OK, so you have never gotten nor received oral stimulation???


Never mind I would not expect an honest answer to a question like that (publicly).

[Silverback]

Maintaining Sodomy as a crime in the UCMJ is a joke.

[testedone]

From Merriam Webster

Pronunciation:
\ˈsä-də-mē\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English, from Anglo-French sodomie, from Late Latin Sodoma Sodom; from the homosexual proclivities of the men of the city in Genesis 19:1–11
Date:
13th century

: anal or oral copulation with a member of the same or opposite sex; also : copulation with an animal

I stand corrected on the current definition, so I will stick with term term ass pirates (with the same sex)

I say current definition because it has changed, it original definition was based upon SAME sex acts

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/sodomy

[Looon]

Sodomy is any sex act other than Male/Female intercourse in the missionary position.

My understanding

[Silverback]

UCMJ says

51. Article 125—Sodomy
a. Text of statute.
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with
an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however
slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.
(b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall by
punished as a court-martial may direct.
b. Elements.
(1) That the accused engaged in unnatural carnal
copulation with a certain other person or with an
animal.
(Note: Add any of the following as applicable)
(2) That the act was done with a child under the
age of 12.
(3) That the act was done with a child who had
attained the age of 12 but was under the age of 16.
(4) That the act was done by force and without
the consent of the other person.
c. Explanation. It is unnatural carnal copulation for
a person to take into that person’s mouth or anus the
sexual organ of another person or of an animal; or to
place that person’s sexual organ in the mouth or
anus of another person or of an animal; or to have
carnal copulation in any opening of the body, except
the sexual parts, with another person;

[Looon]

Websters definition:


va=sodomy
One entry found.

sodomy

Main Entry: sod·omy
Pronunciation: \ˈsä-də-mē\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French sodomie, from Late Latin Sodoma Sodom; from the homosexual proclivities of the men of the city in Genesis 19:1–11
Date: 13th century
: anal or oral copulation with a member of the same or opposite sex; also : copulation with an animal
— sod·om·it·ic \ˌsä-də-ˈmi-tik\ or sod·om·it·i·cal \-ti-kəl\ adjective

[Silverback]

Gents,
The Uniform Code of Military Justice is the only authority used to interpret the act of Sodomy when dealing with uniformed personnel.

[testedone]

Gents,
The Uniform Code of Military Justice is the only authority used to interpret the act of Sodomy when dealing with uniformed personnel.

yes, I understand where you are coming from...

[PocketKings]

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nevermind.

[RangerX]

This thread is worthless without....wait....


nevermind.

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[Silverback]

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[BruteForce]

I don't agree that you can just bunch up flaming homo's with testosterone fueled Alpha-Males and not expect some ass-kicking to occur.

So by your reasoning, Homosexuals should be barred from service because someone might beat them up?

No, not quite what I meant but that is an interesting potential side-effect.

There are hundreds (if not thousands) of homosexuals serving with distinction, but I'd prefer if they remained in-the-closet, rather than be allowed to flaunt their sexual orientation.

[Silverback]

I don't agree that you can just bunch up flaming homo's with testosterone fueled Alpha-Males and not expect some ass-kicking to occur.

So by your reasoning, Homosexuals should be barred from service because someone might beat them up?

No, not quite what I meant but that is an interesting potential side-effect.

There are hundreds (if not thousands) of homosexuals serving with distinction, but I'd prefer if they remained in-the-closet, rather than be allowed to flaunt their sexual orientation.

So the Army's selecting and maintaining of personnel should be based on your personal preferences?