B.O.'s first interview?

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Nomad
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Re: B.O.'s first interview?

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Silverback wrote:The subtext of this thread is a lot more interesting than the thread.

The subtext being, As warfare changes so too should the warfighter's understanding of warfare. Comparing a war against a non-nation combatant group to a war with a national combatant combatant group is APPLES and Oranges.

If we conducted warfare with the same principles we applied in WWII, Korea or even Vietnam we would be in a much worsened condition (militarily) than we are now.
I think that's the big underlying issue here. Some people have dealt with the GWOT for years and have seen that it is a dynamic environment in which things are not remotely uniform, where actionable intel can dissipate into useless paperwork in seconds, where a firm mental grasp of the current enemy's psychology produces things like "The Anbar Awakening" and where the agenda needs to be fluid.

Neither . nor I are advocating for us to cave in, we're simply stating that playing on sentiment is not necessarily a bad way to soften certain demographics which may be favorably predisposed to the idea of not fighting any longer.

The idea of actually calling our President by his title isn't wrong either. To make blanket statements of "who fucking cares, I don't have to do shit" is fine, but you reap what you sow. If you're not working for the military or the government you can go out on the streets and burn pictures of the President - it's your right. But that doesn't make it right either. And with this site being definitely pro-military, which extends to pro-Country/Nation I don't see the need to go on with the childish namecalling that democrats perfected.

If you are one of the guys who actually believes that making fun of the President for his heritage, the way he got through school, his faith, his family, his way of saying things or his beliefs will change anything you're dead fucking wrong. The last President survived a reelection with tons of that stuff. It maybe even drove voters out to counteract what they deemed unacceptable.

I personally despise people like that weak ass, pencil-neck clown Keith Olberman or fat do nothing shitbags like Michael Moore. They are societal parasites and their work hinders our development and unification as a country.

To top that off, I could give two shits if anyone here agrees with me. You can believe whatever it is that you want about the President. While I might not agree with everything he'll do, and chances are I will disagree with most of it, I won't resort to insults reminiscent of junior highschool.
Rock Island Ranger
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Re: B.O.'s first interview?

Post by Rock Island Ranger »

Nomad wrote:
Silverback wrote:The subtext of this thread is a lot more interesting than the thread.

The subtext being, As warfare changes so too should the warfighter's understanding of warfare. Comparing a war against a non-nation combatant group to a war with a national combatant combatant group is APPLES and Oranges.

If we conducted warfare with the same principles we applied in WWII, Korea or even Vietnam we would be in a much worsened condition (militarily) than we are now.
I think that's the big underlying issue here. Some people have dealt with the GWOT for years and have seen that it is a dynamic environment in which things are not remotely uniform, where actionable intel can dissipate into useless paperwork in seconds, where a firm mental grasp of the current enemy's psychology produces things like "The Anbar Awakening" and where the agenda needs to be fluid.

Neither . nor I are advocating for us to cave in, we're simply stating that playing on sentiment is not necessarily a bad way to soften certain demographics which may be favorably predisposed to the idea of not fighting any longer.

The idea of actually calling our President by his title isn't wrong either. To make blanket statements of "who fucking cares, I don't have to do shit" is fine, but you reap what you sow. If you're not working for the military or the government you can go out on the streets and burn pictures of the President - it's your right. But that doesn't make it right either. And with this site being definitely pro-military, which extends to pro-Country/Nation I don't see the need to go on with the childish namecalling that democrats perfected.

If you are one of the guys who actually believes that making fun of the President for his heritage, the way he got through school, his faith, his family, his way of saying things or his beliefs will change anything you're dead fucking wrong. The last President survived a reelection with tons of that stuff. It maybe even drove voters out to counteract what they deemed unacceptable.

I personally despise people like that weak ass, pencil-neck clown Keith Olberman or fat do nothing shitbags like Michael Moore. They are societal parasites and their work hinders our development and unification as a country.

To top that off, I could give two shits if anyone here agrees with me. You can believe whatever it is that you want about the President. While I might not agree with everything he'll do, and chances are I will disagree with most of it, I won't resort to insults reminiscent of junior highschool.
For an infidel knuckle dragging neanderthal, you make pretty good sense.
playing on sentiment is not necessarily a bad way to soften certain demographics which may be favorably predisposed to the idea of not fighting any longer.
and if it works, its not a bad idea. If it doesnt work, then...we are back to where we are now.

Coaching from the back seat of the auditorium is easy. He shoulda, coulda,...blah, blah, blah....end result of everything in the future is "we have to wait and see". Maybe he is a communist, maybe not. Maybe he's an idiot, maybe not. Dont like much about him right now however, if he does well...I gotta be glad. In the interim, he is The POTUS. I have to pay some homage to the HUGE responsibility he now has on his shoulders and hope he handles it intelligently.
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Re: B.O.'s first interview?

Post by Jenny Lynn »

Thank you Rangers, reading this post reminded me that it's the sacrifices you Rangers and other American veterans, soldiers have made that allow us to feel safe in our homes, to speak our opinions without fear that one of you will be arrested, jailed and beaten for having a difference in opinion from those who are elected or in power and posting your opinion.

I am in no way meaning any disrespect to anyone, I have read every post made here and like being able to see the differences in views, opinions, the individual reactions stated here. It's amazing that even with these differences, I see the respect and admiration you all have for each other.

Thank you for that, Jenny
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