Re: Disrespect

The Holmchicken · Post by **The Holmchicken** » May 13th, 2007, 1:12 pm

Bravo57 wrote:Throat Punch.

It's pretty much the Liger of attitude adjustments. Bred for it's powers in awesomeness.

KW Driver · Post by **KW Driver** » May 13th, 2007, 1:26 pm

The Holmchicken wrote:
Bravo57 wrote:Throat Punch.

It's pretty much the Liger of attitude adjustments. Bred for it's powers in awesomeness.

can't wait to hear what you have to say in 6-12 months.... :D

RTO · Post by **RTO** » May 24th, 2007, 8:38 am

Great story. It looks like this kid is going to make it. I thought I would post this story here. This kid has every excuse to be a failure yet it looks like he will turn out fine.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18825202/?GT1=9951

Capellanus · Post by **Capellanus** » May 24th, 2007, 10:39 am

I agree RTO. I think D.J will do just fine.

Many of you are familiar with the biblical passage of Proverbs 22:6

â€œTrain up a child in the way he should go, even when he is old he will not depart from itâ€

Ranger Ron · Post by **Ranger Ron** » May 24th, 2007, 10:45 am

I don't think we have any idea what runs through the minds of the young ones today. My family is having a very trying week.

This story relates to my two daughters best friend from high school days. Last Thursday night their friends' older sister (39) and her daughter (5) were murdered by her 15 year old daughter and her 18 year old boy friend because she was trying to keep them from dating. The two teans killed her 5 year old half sister and waited 2 1/2 hours for the mother to come home from work and then killed her. They then took the mother's car and headed to Wyoming where they were caught the next day.

Arraignment was this morning and the funerals are this afternoon.

Very sad day!!! How can a 15 year old learn to hate that much in such a short time???

bulldogg · Post by **bulldogg** » May 24th, 2007, 5:43 pm

Damn, RangerRon that is multiple shades of fucked up and my heart goes out to your family and the family of your daughters' friend. I think you hit the answer in the first line of your post and it ties back in with what Cappelanus said in the one just prior... we "have no idea what runs through the minds of the young ones today" THAT is a serious problem if the "we" is the parents.

In this particular case somewhere along the way those two teens got the fucked up message that killing your mom and baby sister is the correct remedy for being kept apart from the object of your hormones... TV or movie plots... I can rattle off a half-dozen storylines from memory without hitting the Google Fu of mainstream TV shows or movies where this EXACT scenario is played out for anyone with a remote. Parents have forgotten what the fuck PG stands for- Parental Guidance, we're so god damned jaded and numb from all the shit we see that adults seem to have forgotten that seeing someone get their finger cut off for not paying a debt is NOT the fare for a five year old OR a 16 year old. And if they do happen to have that shit put into their head the parents now step up and provide GUIDANCE... "No, killing someone because you want their tennis shoes is wrong." How fucking hard is that? Christ I am sick of hearing excuses from men and women who fucked, popped one out and then do NOTHING with the fruits of their labor.

"Kids grow up fast"... BULLSHIT. They grow up UNCONTROLLED. No limits, no boundaries, no guidance because Mom n Pop can't be arsed to do their duty as parents and have relegated that to anyone but themselves.

The years of liberal bullshit "if it feels good do it"..."make peace not war"..."its my right"... have weakened parenting. We now have a system in most western countries now whereby the children raise themselves. How stupid is that?! I do however acknowledge that I am preaching to the choir... but here is the point of this rant... if as a parent you see someone else's kid being neglected, abused, and not parented for the sake and safety of your own child and for the rest of our country, step in and sort that kid out. They may not show you love and affection at first touch but by god they need it and later they will be thankful for that boot you placed up their ass when their parent wasn't there to do it themselves.

As a country we need to stop being a fucking collection of individuals and start being a community again or we are all doomed.

Ranger Ron · Post by **Ranger Ron** » May 25th, 2007, 6:22 am

Bulldogg, you are correct. Those of us Americans that still have some core values had better stand up and say "Enough is enough!!!" to those who want to do away with moral values. Like Pepsi leaving "In God We Trust" off their new patriotic can. That's BS and they should be called on it!!

"IF you won't stand up for something, you will fall for anything!"

ANGRYCivilian · Post by **ANGRYCivilian** » May 25th, 2007, 1:06 pm

Doc Cook wrote:The best parenting story that I can come up with comes from my father when he was 15years old:

My grandmother was mean as shit, it was in her genes I guess. Not a drunk but definately pretty much right/wrong with object lessons along the way. My grandfather was a paratrooper in WWII, a medic in the 507th PIR and jumped into Normandy who never yelled nor layed a hand on my father, since that was my Grandmother's job.

-One balmy spring California day, my grandfather asked my father to mow the lawn. With 15 year old's being 15 year olds, he gave Grandpa 'Roy' some whining and some bull shit.....

-Without saying a word, my grandfather took a butcher knife, threw it across the yard and stuck it in between Dad's feet! Fuckin' A right, that lawn looked like a japanese garden from that day foward. No further requests needed.

Straight up fear changes a kid! Between the ages of 13-16, I was pretty bad. I was never rude or disrespectful to my Mother, but just generally up to no good. Well, she finally shipped me off to my Dad's at 16. Now, I generally tried to do good, but sometimes I'd fuck up. Every time, my Dad would say, "Come one, were going out to the wood shed to have a talk". Talk really meant he was going to beat my ass, and not like a spanking, like a fucking ass-kicking.

I was walking on egg-shells when I lived with him, and I hated it and hated him (at the time). It was fear that made me constantly think about everything I was doing. I'm not saying it was the right way to instill discipline in your son, but it worked, and instantly.

You know what, I love my Dad, and I understand now that that was how he was raised, but much worse, and he knew no other way.