Rumor of a third match Shamrock was good in his day, now he's just old. Guess he'll get a fat ass pay check for losing again
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Shamrock VS Ortiz
Shamrock VS Ortiz
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This mighty soldier on the eve of the war he waged
Told his troops of lessons learned from battles fought.
"May your heart grow bolder like an iron-clad brigade"
Said this leader to his outnumbered lot.
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I recall when Ken Shamrock fought him the first time, Ortiz talked a bunch of shit during the pre-fight hoopla and totally disrespected the man who was and is responsible for creating the respectability of what the UFC is today. Though Ortiz whupped him Shamrock was way past his prime.
But I will say this........ Ken Shamrock during his prime would have kicked Peter Ortiz's ass plain and simple, I was hopin that he would avenge his lost in the second bout but he was even older. If they do fight a 3rd time I will again be rootin for him.
But I took pleasure in watching the ICE MAN fuck his bitch ass up.
But I will say this........ Ken Shamrock during his prime would have kicked Peter Ortiz's ass plain and simple, I was hopin that he would avenge his lost in the second bout but he was even older. If they do fight a 3rd time I will again be rootin for him.
But I took pleasure in watching the ICE MAN fuck his bitch ass up.
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I never thought that Ken Shamrock was that great. Don't get me wrong, he can kick the shit out of me and he's no lightweight in the UFC. But Ortiz has had a much more impressive fighting record and seems to be training harder. Not to mention Tito has that giant monoloid skull that seems to be able to take unlimited abuse.
Now, if his brother, Frank Shamrock was still in the UFC, that'd be a fight I'd like to see.
Now, if his brother, Frank Shamrock was still in the UFC, that'd be a fight I'd like to see.
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A 1/75 93-97
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RS 3,4&5-95
This mighty soldier on the eve of the war he waged
Told his troops of lessons learned from battles fought.
"May your heart grow bolder like an iron-clad brigade"
Said this leader to his outnumbered lot.
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RS 3,4&5-95
This mighty soldier on the eve of the war he waged
Told his troops of lessons learned from battles fought.
"May your heart grow bolder like an iron-clad brigade"
Said this leader to his outnumbered lot.
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Bugsy wrote:I recall when Ken Shamrock fought him the first time, Ortiz talked a bunch of shit during the pre-fight hoopla and totally disrespected the man who was and is responsible for creating the respectability of what the UFC is today. Though Ortiz whupped him Shamrock was way past his prime.
But I will say this........ Ken Shamrock during his prime would have kicked Peter Ortiz's ass plain and simple, I was hopin that he would avenge his lost in the second bout but he was even older. If they do fight a 3rd time I will again be rootin for him.
But I took pleasure in watching the ICE MAN fuck his bitch ass up.
Is Peter Ortiz related to Tito?
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Peter, Tito, whatever... them bleach blonde mexicans all look the same to me23LRS wrote:Bugsy wrote:I recall when Ken Shamrock fought him the first time, Ortiz talked a bunch of shit during the pre-fight hoopla and totally disrespected the man who was and is responsible for creating the respectability of what the UFC is today. Though Ortiz whupped him Shamrock was way past his prime.
But I will say this........ Ken Shamrock during his prime would have kicked Peter Ortiz's ass plain and simple, I was hopin that he would avenge his lost in the second bout but he was even older. If they do fight a 3rd time I will again be rootin for him.
But I took pleasure in watching the ICE MAN fuck his bitch ass up.
Is Peter Ortiz related to Tito?
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DAMN! You made me spit my beer all over the desk!!Bugsy wrote:Peter, Tito, whatever... them bleach blonde mexicans all look the same to me23LRS wrote:Bugsy wrote:I recall when Ken Shamrock fought him the first time, Ortiz talked a bunch of shit during the pre-fight hoopla and totally disrespected the man who was and is responsible for creating the respectability of what the UFC is today. Though Ortiz whupped him Shamrock was way past his prime.
But I will say this........ Ken Shamrock during his prime would have kicked Peter Ortiz's ass plain and simple, I was hopin that he would avenge his lost in the second bout but he was even older. If they do fight a 3rd time I will again be rootin for him.
But I took pleasure in watching the ICE MAN fuck his bitch ass up.
Is Peter Ortiz related to Tito?
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Praise be to the LORD my Rock,
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Psalm 144:1
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Ken Shamrock has always been overrated. His only wins worth mention were against Bas "El Nosprawlo" Rutten in Pancrase, quite before Bas even knew what the fuck a sprawl WAS. Since then, it's been a steady diet of early UFC competition (one boxing glove for the motherfucking win), a submission loss to Royce, a snoozefest "draw" with Royce, a bit of a drubbing by a far passed his prime Frye and a steady diet of ass whippings from legitimate fightesr (with a Kimo "fight" in the middle). I'm sorry, but I'm not impressed.
Hopefully this time Tito can kill Ken, so that I'll never have to watch him talk shit about fighters ten times as skilled as he is.
"I'm going to beat you into a living death." Yeah, Ken, that about sums it up.
Hopefully this time Tito can kill Ken, so that I'll never have to watch him talk shit about fighters ten times as skilled as he is.
"I'm going to beat you into a living death." Yeah, Ken, that about sums it up.
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I agree, Ken is still 90 percent WWF. Bas Rutten is to me, one of the greatest MMA fighters ever. Ortiz is up there too. I also like Matt Huges, he is nowhere on there level (yet) but that dude can fight!
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I agree, Ken is still 90 percent WWF. Bas Rutten is to me, one of the greatest MMA fighters ever. Ortiz is up there too. I also like Matt Huges, he is nowhere on there level (yet) but that dude can fight!
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Psalm 144:1
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Psalm 144:1
I actually think that Matt Hughes is a much better fighter than Ortiz. Tito is maybe a fringe top five guy in the light heavyweight division. Matt? Shit. Matt is damn near unbeatable in his division. GSP might give him a run, and BJ Penn, but neither is going to be the favorite going into a fight with him.23LRS wrote:I agree, Ken is still 90 percent WWF. Bas Rutten is to me, one of the greatest MMA fighters ever. Ortiz is up there too. I also like Matt Huges, he is nowhere on there level (yet) but that dude can fight!
I can think of several that I'd put as favorites over Tito in a fight.
Bas is good stuff, but I think (depending on the weight class he chose to fight in) he'd struggle with strong wrestlers. He's quite good on his feet and has an underrated ground game. He's also got a lot of personality, and it makes it extremely difficult to NOT like him.
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