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151600 February 2011 (EST) USAREC MESSAGE 11-099
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From: Headquarters USAREC
To: All Recruiting Personnel
SUBJECT: Prior Service (PS) enlistments into the Regular Army (RA)
1. This is an immediate message and requires dissemination to all recruiting
personnel.
2. This message is valid for 2 years from date of publication unless sooner
rescinded or superseded.
3. References:
a. Army Regulation 601-210, Regular Army and Army Reserve Enlistment
Program, (with Operational changes), dated 7 June 2007.
b. Department of the Army Memorandum, Prior Service Accessions Business
Rules for Grade Determinations, dated 28 September 2010.
c. USAREC message 10-021, Operation Blue to Green Enlistment Program,
dated 6 November 2009.
d. USAREC message 11-074, Prior Service (PS) enlistments into the
Regular Army (RA), dated 13 January 2011. (Rescinded)
4. The purpose of this message is to announce new guidance on Prior Service
(PS) enlistments into the Regular Army (RA). Administrative reduction is no
longer authorized to fill a vacancy.
5. Effective 22 February 2011, PS enlistments in all Skill Levels, to include
Soldiers from Sister Services applying for the Blue to Green (B2G) Program, are
restricted by critical MOS exception according to Human Resource Command (HRC)
Accessions Business Rules. This policy does not affect those PS already in
Delayed Status (DS). No reductions in pay grade will be favorably considered,
no exceptions.
6. This policy affects Glossary NPS (DOS) enlistments in pay grade E-1 thru
E-4. Applicants with 179 days or less on Active Duty are considered to be DOS
NPS applicants for the purpose of enlistment into the Regular Army. Applicants
who never shipped to training and have ZERO days of service may apply for an
exception to policy thru Enlistment Eligibility and Processing Division.
7. The HRC Business Rules will be updated monthly by HRC (see part II of this
message).
a. Applicants in grade E-5 and above must submit a formal electronic
request for grade determination to CG, USAREC IAW with AR 601-210, Chapter 3-17.
b. If applicant is MOS qualified in an MOS listed for his/her pay grade in
paragraph 1a of the HRC business rules; approval will be granted in his/her
grade in current PMOS.
c. If applicant is not MOS qualified for a MOS listed for his/her pay grade
in paragraph 1a, then grade will be approved to retrain in an MOS listed in
paragraph 1b of the HRC business rules for his/her pay grade.
d. Applicants in pay grade E-4 and above who hold MOS 18B, 18C, 18D, 18E,
18F, 37F, 42R, 42S, 46Q, or 46R can request an exception to the Business Rules.
Send exception request thru GCR as a grade determination. Exceptions are not
always favorably considered.
8. If an applicant does not hold the grade and MOS that has an open vacancy
listed in paragraph 1a of the Business Rules and there are no retraining
vacancies in current grade listed in paragraph 1b of the Business Rules, request
for grade determination for the purpose of enlistment in the RA will not be
favorably considered due to lack of vacancies in MOS and grade.
9. Point of contact for this message through your chain of command is Policy
Branch, USAREC HQS RCRO-EPP at (800) 688-9203 ext 3.
John E. Box, LTC, (P) GS, Assistant Chief of Staff, G-3
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PART II
MEMORANDUM FOR U.S. Army Recruiting Command (RCRO-EEP), Ft Knox, KY 40121.
SUBJECT: Prior Service Accession Business Rules for Grade Determinations
(ref AR 601-210)
1. This memorandum supersedes the memorandum dated 3 January 2011 and provides
new guidance to USAREC in the vacancies that may be filled. These Business
Rules are all encompassing for Prior Service (PS) vacancies. The following
vacancies are available provided the applicant is otherwise qualified.
a. Vacancies by grade and MOS:
(1) Grades E-1 thru E-4 - 11C, 14T, 15Q, 35L, 35P (language dependent),
68M, 89D.
(2) Grades E-1 thru E-4 - AIRBORNE qualified only - 12B, 12Y, 13T, 25S,
35F, 35L, 35N or 91F.
(3) Grade E-5 - 35F, 35L, 35N or 35P (language dependent) or 91F.
(4) Grade E-6 - no vacancies.
(5) Grade E-7 - no vacancies. Changes monthly based on the needs of
the Army.
(6) Grade E-8 - no vacancies. Changes monthly based on the needs of
the Army.
(7) Grade E-9 - no vacancies. Changes monthly based on the needs of
the Army.
b. If no vacancy exists, the following MOSs will be used for retraining:
(1) Grades E-1 thru E-4 - 18X.
(2) Grade E-5 - no vacancies.
(3) Grades E-6 and above - no vacancies.
c. If applicant holds the grade and MOS that is listed in paragraph 1a
above, the applicant will enlist for Option 18, (U.S. Army First Assignment);
Prior Service Accession Branch (USAREC) will validate MOS qualifications.
2. For applicants who require a grade determination, Prior Service Accession
Branch (USAREC) will determine the enlistment grade as follows:
a. Applicant must enlist in the Delayed Status within 30 days of final
grade determination. He/she must understand that the vacancies constantly
change; if the grade determination expires prior to enlisting into the Delayed
Status, they could be subject to disapproval.
b. If applicant does not hold the grade and MOS that has an open vacancy
listed in paragraph 1a above and there are no retraining vacancies in current
grade listed in paragraph 1b above, he/she will not be granted accession at this
time. Administrative reduction is no longer authorized to fill a vacancy.
c Training opportunities exist for MOSs and grades listed in paragraph lb
above, however, training is limited. Once all training seats have been filled,
the NCOIC of the ROC will send an email out to all BN Operations and Senior
Guidance Counselors notifying them of this information.
3. All PS applicants that hold an ASI may submit for an exception to policy
without regards to the listed MOS vacancies in paragraph 1a above. Not all
exceptions are favorably considered.
Prior Service Enlistments
Prior Service Enlistments
I have gotten quite a few messages from guys on here asking about coming back in. To be blunt, its not easy to get in as a Prior Service guy right now, if not next to impossible. But the new message on Prior Service enlistments just came out today, and it gives a little more wiggle room than there has been. You may need to read through it a time or two, its somewhat confusing, but this is exactly what recruiters will reference:
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
-Theodore Roosevelt
1/75 2006 - 2010
-Theodore Roosevelt
1/75 2006 - 2010
Re: Prior Service Enlistments
Updated Prior Service message as of 25MAR2011:
USAREC MSG 11-123
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251600 March 2011 (EST) USAREC MESSAGE 11-123
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From: Headquarters USAREC
To: All Recruiting Personnel
SUBJECT: Prior Service (PS) enlistments into the Regular Army (RA)
1. This is an immediate message and requires dissemination to all recruiting
personnel.
2. This message is valid for 2 years from date of publication unless sooner
rescinded or superseded.
3. References:
a. Army Regulation 601-210, Regular Army and Army Reserve Enlistment
Program, (with Operational changes), dated 8 March 2011.
b. Department of the Army Memorandum, Prior Service Accessions Business
Rules for Grade Determinations, dated 28 September 2010.
c. USAREC message 10-021, Operation Blue to Green Enlistment Program, dated
6 November 2009.
d. USAREC message 11-099, Prior Service (PS) enlistments into the Regular
Army (RA), dated 15 February 2011. (Rescinded)
4. The purpose of this message is to announce new guidance on Prior Service
(PS) enlistments into the Regular Army (RA). Administrative reduction is no
longer authorized to fill a vacancy.
5. Effective 31 March 2011, PS enlistments in all Skill Levels, to include
Soldiers from Sister Services applying for the Blue to Green (B2G) Program, are
restricted by critical MOS exception according to Human Resource Command (HRC)
Accessions Business Rules. This policy does not affect those PS already in
Delayed Status (DS). No reductions in pay grade will be favorably considered,
no exceptions.
6. This policy affects Glossary NPS (DOS) enlistments in pay grade E-1 thru
E-4. Applicants with 179 days or less on Active Duty are considered to be DOS
NPS applicants for the purpose of enlistment. Applicants who never shipped to
training and have ZERO days of service may apply for an exception to policy thru
Enlistment Eligibility and Processing Division.
7. The HRC Business Rules will be updated monthly by HRC (see part II of this
message).
a. Applicants in grade E-5 and above must submit a formal electronic
request for grade determination to CG, USAREC IAW with AR 601-210, Chapter 3-17.
b. If applicant is MOS qualified in an MOS listed for his/her pay grade in
paragraph 1a of the HRC business rules; approval will be granted in his/her
grade in current PMOS.
c. If applicant is not MOS qualified for a MOS listed for his/her pay grade
in paragraph 1a, then grade will be approved to retrain in an MOS listed in
paragraph 1b of the HRC business rules for his/her pay grade.
d. Applicants in pay grade E-4 and above who hold MOS 18B, 18C, 18D, 18E,
18F, 37F, 42R, 42S, 46Q, or 46R can request an exception to the Business Rules.
Send exception request thru GCR as a grade determination. Exceptions are not
always favorably considered.
8. If an applicant does not hold the grade and MOS that has an open vacancy
listed in paragraph 1a of the Business Rules and there are no retraining
vacancies in current grade listed in paragraph 1b of the Business Rules, request
for grade determination for the purpose of enlistment in the RA will not be
favorably considered due to lack of vacancies in MOS and grade.
9. Point of contact for this message through your chain of command is Policy
Branch, USAREC HQS RCRO-EPP at (800) 688-9203 ext 3.
John E. Box, LTC, (P) GS, Assistant Chief of Staff, G-3
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PART II
MEMORANDUM FOR U.S. Army Recruiting Command (RCRO-EEP), Ft Knox, KY 40121.
SUBJECT: Prior Service Accession Business Rules for Grade Determinations
(ref AR 601-210)
1. This memorandum supersedes the memorandum dated 15 February 2011 and
provides new guidance to USAREC in the vacancies that may be filled.
These Business Rules are all encompassing for Prior Service (PS) vacancies.
The following vacancies are available provided the applicant is otherwise
qualified.
a. Vacancies by grade and MOS:
(1) Grades E-1 thru E-4 - 11C, 15Q, 35P (language dependent), 68M, 89D.
(2) Grades E-1 thru E-4 - Must already be AIRBORNE qualified - 12Y,
13B, 13T, 25S, 35F, 35N, 42A, 91F, 92A or 92Y.
(3) Grade E-5 - 35F, 35L, 35N or 35P (language dependent) or 91F.
(4) Grade E-5 - 35F, 35L, 35N, 35P (language dependent) or 91F.
(5) Grade E-5 - Must already be AIRBORNE qualified - 92A or 92Y.
(4) Grade E-6 - 35P (language dependent).
(5) Grade E-7 - no vacancies. Changes monthly based on the needs of
the Army.
(6) Grade E-8 - no vacancies. Changes monthly based on the needs of
the Army.
(7) Grade E-9 - no vacancies. Changes monthly based on the needs of
the Army.
b. If no vacancy exists, the following MOSs will be used for retraining:
(1) Grades E-1 thru E-4 - 18X.
(2) Grade E-5 - no vacancies.
(3) Grades E-6 and above - no vacancies.
c. If applicant holds the grade and MOS that is listed in paragraph 1a
above, the applicant will enlist for Option 18, (U.S. Army First Assignment);
Prior Service Accession Branch (USAREC) will validate MOS qualifications.
2. For applicants who require a grade determination, Prior Service Accession
Branch (USAREC) will determine the enlistment grade as follows:
a. Applicant must enlist in the Delayed Status within 30 days of final
grade determination. He/she must understand that the vacancies constantly
change; if the grade determination expires prior to enlisting into the Delayed
Status, they could be subject to disapproval.
b. If applicant does not hold the grade and MOS that has an open vacancy
listed in paragraph 1a above and there are no retraining vacancies in current
grade listed in paragraph 1b above, he/she will not be granted accession at
this time. Administrative reduction is no longer authorized to fill a vacancy.
c Training opportunities exist for MOSs and grades listed in paragraph lb
above, however, training is limited.
3. All PS applicants that hold an ASI may submit for an exception to policy
without regards to the listed MOS vacancies in paragraph 1a above. Not all
exceptions are favorably considered.
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
-Theodore Roosevelt
1/75 2006 - 2010
-Theodore Roosevelt
1/75 2006 - 2010
Re: Prior Service Enlistments
Thanks for the update. What I've been hearing around the flagpole is that everyone needs to begin positioning for a large downsizing of the force over the next couple years.
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Advisor, VN 66-68 69-70
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Trainer, El Salvador 86-87
Advisor, Saudi Arabian National Guard 91, 93-94
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Advisor, VN 66-68 69-70
42d Vn Ranger Battalion 1969-1970
Trainer, El Salvador 86-87
Advisor, Saudi Arabian National Guard 91, 93-94
75th RRA Life Member #867
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- Ranger
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Re: Prior Service Enlistments
Really? So the word around the flagpole is that we are 'winning' our ground wars and have low prospects for more?Jim wrote:been hearing around the flagpole is that everyone needs to begin positioning for a large downsizing of the force over the next couple years.
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2d Bn U.D. for 75th Ranger Regt Assn
2d Bn(Ranger)75 Inf 1975-'77
RS 9-76
Former mentor to RANGER XCrunner.
"I am well aware that by no means equal repute attends the narrator and the doer of deeds” Sallust ‘The Catiline Conspiracy’
2d Bn U.D. for 75th Ranger Regt Assn
2d Bn(Ranger)75 Inf 1975-'77
RS 9-76
Former mentor to RANGER XCrunner.
"I am well aware that by no means equal repute attends the narrator and the doer of deeds” Sallust ‘The Catiline Conspiracy’
Re: Prior Service Enlistments
No, Kevin, we didn't say either. What was said was we are going to downsize.K.Ingraham wrote:Really? So the word around the flagpole is that we are 'winning' our ground wars and have low prospects for more?Jim wrote:been hearing around the flagpole is that everyone needs to begin positioning for a large downsizing of the force over the next couple years.
Ranger Class 13-71
Advisor, VN 66-68 69-70
42d Vn Ranger Battalion 1969-1970
Trainer, El Salvador 86-87
Advisor, Saudi Arabian National Guard 91, 93-94
75th RRA Life Member #867
Advisor, VN 66-68 69-70
42d Vn Ranger Battalion 1969-1970
Trainer, El Salvador 86-87
Advisor, Saudi Arabian National Guard 91, 93-94
75th RRA Life Member #867
Re: Prior Service Enlistments
That seems to be the case. It is getting harder and harder to get jobs for people (recruiting-wise), nevermind prior service folks. I know right now that as NCO's, if we want to re-enlist, we have to submit a formal MFR stating why the army should keep us. RCP's are getting lowerd as well. I am concerned about it, a large reduction in force seems to be a bit pre-mature at this point. Say another large ground presence is needed (take your pick of countries this is likely to be), there will be a massive lowering of standards to get a ton of people in fast, along with keeping a bunch of guys in that don't belong in. It just seems that it would be a better idea to keep our numbers about where they are at now, but still implement the quality control measures. I also think a fundemental mis-understanding of professionalizing the force is at hand. We should be more concerned about "what can we do to keep the best in" as opposed to "what can we do to get the marginal out"
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
-Theodore Roosevelt
1/75 2006 - 2010
-Theodore Roosevelt
1/75 2006 - 2010
- K.Ingraham
- Ranger
- Posts: 6143
- Joined: January 25th, 2005, 11:59 am
Re: Prior Service Enlistments
I didn't mean that literally Jim, but that is the apparent belief set that the action supports. Those Who Rule have clearly decided that we cannot afford victory.Jim wrote:No, Kevin, we didn't say either. What was said was we are going to downsize.K.Ingraham wrote:Really? So the word around the flagpole is that we are 'winning' our ground wars and have low prospects for more?Jim wrote:been hearing around the flagpole is that everyone needs to begin positioning for a large downsizing of the force over the next couple years.
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2d Bn U.D. for 75th Ranger Regt Assn
2d Bn(Ranger)75 Inf 1975-'77
RS 9-76
Former mentor to RANGER XCrunner.
"I am well aware that by no means equal repute attends the narrator and the doer of deeds” Sallust ‘The Catiline Conspiracy’
2d Bn U.D. for 75th Ranger Regt Assn
2d Bn(Ranger)75 Inf 1975-'77
RS 9-76
Former mentor to RANGER XCrunner.
"I am well aware that by no means equal repute attends the narrator and the doer of deeds” Sallust ‘The Catiline Conspiracy’
Re: Prior Service Enlistments
There is a new Prior Service message out, I will get it posted up here at my next opportunity. Down and Dirty: if you got out as an E-5 or above, and are not in one of the needed high priority MOS's, you are not getting back in right now (active duty). E-4 and below have there choice of: 18x.
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
-Theodore Roosevelt
1/75 2006 - 2010
-Theodore Roosevelt
1/75 2006 - 2010
Re: Prior Service Enlistments
Updated Prior Service enlistment message as of 14 July 2011:
SUBJECT: Prior Service (PS) enlistments into the Regular Army (RA).
1. This is an immediate message and requires dissemination to all
recruiting personnel.
2. This message is valid for 2 years from date of publication unless
sooner rescinded or superseded.
3. References:
a. Army Regulation 601-210, Regular Army and Army Reserve Enlistment
Program, (with Operational changes), dated 8 March 2011.
b. Department of the Army Memorandum, Prior Service Accessions Business
Rules for Grade Determinations, dated 13 July 2011.
c. USAREC message 10-021, Operation Blue to Green Enlistment Program,
dated 6 November 2009.
d. USAREC message 11-123, Prior Service (PS) enlistments into the
Regular Army (RA), dated 25 March 2011. (Rescinded)
4. The purpose of this message is to announce new guidance on Prior Service
(PS) enlistments into the Regular Army (RA). Administrative reduction is no
longer authorized to fill a vacancy.
5. Effective 18 Jul 2011, PS enlistments in all Skill Levels, to include
Soldiers from Sister Services applying for the Blue to Green (B2G) Program,
are restricted by critical MOS exception according to Human Resource Command
(HRC) Accessions Business Rules. This policy does not affect those PS
already in Delayed Status (DS). No reductions in pay grade will be
favorably considered, no exceptions.
6. This policy affects all Days of Service (DOS) Soldiers in pay grades E-1
thru E-4. Applicants with 179 days or less on Active Duty are considered
DOS. Applicants who never shipped to training and have ZERO days of service
may apply for an exception to policy thru Enlistment Eligibility and
Processing Division.
7. This policy DOES NOT affect Soldiers who are removed from the
Temporary Disability Retirement List (TDRL). All Soldiers removed
from TDRL will have a formal electronic grade determination completed
IAW AR 601-210, Chapter 5-51f.
8. The HRC Business Rules will be updated monthly by HRC (see part II
of this message).
a. Applicants in grade E-5 and above must submit a formal electronic
request for grade determination to CG, USAREC IAW with AR 601-210,
Chapter 3-17.
b. If applicant is MOS qualified in an MOS listed for his/her pay
grade in paragraph 1a of the HRC business rules; approval will be
granted in his/her grade in current PMOS.
c. If applicant is not MOS qualified for a MOS listed for his/her pay
grade in paragraph 1a, then grade will be approved to retrain in an MOS
listed in paragraph 1b of the HRC business rules for his/her pay grade.
d. Applicants in pay grade E-4 and above who hold MOS 09L, 18B, 18C,
18D, 18E, 18F, 37F, 42R, 42S, 46Q, 46R, or 89D can request an exception
to the Business Rules. Send exception request thru GCR as a grade
determination. Exceptions are not always favorably considered.
9. If an applicant does not hold the grade and MOS that has an open
vacancy listed in paragraph 1a of the Business Rules and there are no
retraining vacancies in current grade listed in paragraph 1b of the
Business Rules, request for grade determination for the purpose of
enlistment in the RA will not be favorably considered due to lack of
vacancies in MOS and grade.
Assistant Chief of Staff, Deputy G-3
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141800 July 2011 (EST) USAREC MESSAGE 11-193 Part II
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MEMORANDUM FOR U.S. Army Recruiting Command (RCRO-EEP), Ft Knox, KY 40121.
SUBJECT: Prior Service Accession Business Rules for Grade Determinations
(ref AR 601-210)
1. This memorandum supersedes the memorandum dated 15 February 2011 and
provides new guidance to USAREC in the vacancies that may be filled. These
Business Rules are all encompassing for Prior Service (PS)/Days of Service
(DOS) vacancies.
The following vacancies are available provided the applicant is otherwise
qualified.
a. Vacancies by grade and MOS (changes monthly based on the needs of
the Army):
(1) Grades E-1 thru E-4 - 35P (language dependent), 68M, 91F.
(2) Grades E-1 thru E-4 - Must already be AIRBORNE qualified - 12Y,
13B, 13T, 25S, 35F, 35N, 42A, 91F, 92A or 92Y.
(3) Grade E-5 - 25R, 35F, 35L, 35N, 35P (language dependent), 91F.
(4) Grade E-5 - Must already be AIRBORNE qualified - 92A, 92Y.
(5) Grade E-6 - 35P (language dependent).
(6) Grade E-7 - no vacancies.
(7) Grade E-8 - no vacancies.
(8) Grade E-9 - no vacancies.
b. If no vacancy exists, the following MOS will be used for retraining
(changes monthly based on the needs of the Army):
(1) Grades E-1 thru E-4 - 18X.
(2) Grade E-5 - no vacancies.
(3) Grades E-6 and above - no vacancies.
c. If applicant holds the grade and MOS that is listed in paragraph 1a
above, the applicant will enlist for Option 18, (U.S. Army First Assignment);
Prior Service Accession Branch (USAREC) will validate MOS qualifications.
2. For applicants who require a grade determination, Prior Service Accession
Branch (USAREC) will determine the enlistment grade as follows:
a. Applicant must enlist in the Delayed Status (DS) within 30 days of
final grade determination. He/she must understand that the vacancies
constantly change; if the grade determination expires prior to enlisting
into the DS, they could be subject to disapproval.
b. If an applicant does not hold the grade and MOS that has an open
vacancy listed in paragraph 1a above and there are no retraining vacancies
in current grade listed in paragraph 1b above, he/she will not be granted
accession at this time. Administrative reduction is no longer authorized
to fill a vacancy.
c. Training opportunities exist for MOSs and grades listed in paragraph
lb above, however, training is limited.
3. If a renegotiation is approved the DS Soldier may enlist under current
HRC business rules or the HRC business rules in affect at time of entry in
the DS.
3. All PS/DOS applicants that hold an Additional Skill Identifier (ASI) may
submit for an exception to policy without regards to the listed MOS vacancies
in paragraph 1a above. Not all exceptions are favorably considered.
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
-Theodore Roosevelt
1/75 2006 - 2010
-Theodore Roosevelt
1/75 2006 - 2010
- Hawkmoon74
- Ranger
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- Joined: May 11th, 2011, 10:43 am
Re: Prior Service Enlistments
Any new Business Rules for prior service?
I've pushed off MEPS as long as possible but am headed there this weekend...
I've pushed off MEPS as long as possible but am headed there this weekend...
Sr. Machine Gunner
2nd PLt, Aco. 3/75, 92'-95'
Ranger School class 11-94 (Desert Phase Major Go, Desert Phase Recycle, Mountain Phase Major Go...in that order...)
Blood and death I'm born to bring, the birth of an assassin. To cut the cord of life and death and ties to earth unfasten...
2nd PLt, Aco. 3/75, 92'-95'
Ranger School class 11-94 (Desert Phase Major Go, Desert Phase Recycle, Mountain Phase Major Go...in that order...)
Blood and death I'm born to bring, the birth of an assassin. To cut the cord of life and death and ties to earth unfasten...
Re: Prior Service Enlistments
Nothing so far, unfortunately.
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
-Theodore Roosevelt
1/75 2006 - 2010
-Theodore Roosevelt
1/75 2006 - 2010
Re: Prior Service Enlistments
I spoke with someone in big Army's Personnel office and suppossedly they will accept my transfer from the AF
... I'm leaving today for a recruiters office to see what they say when I approach them with my information and try to get a bit more insight.
I'll throw something up if I get anything relavant from the visit.
(crossing fingers)
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I'll throw something up if I get anything relavant from the visit.
(crossing fingers)
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things...The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
J.S. Mill
J.S. Mill
Re: Prior Service Enlistments
I just recieved some more information from the recruiters office. Be ready for a post here soon with some more updated info soon.
What I can honestly say now is that 90% of prior enlistments are all 18X contracts only.... HOWEVER, since they are pulling MOS's for 2012 already an Opt 40 contract is very possible (just twist the recruiters arm a bit).
The recruiter I'm currently working with is going to keep me abreast on the situation and give me a heads up on an 11X Opt 40 contract as soon as one is available so the moment my DOS is close enough I just have to sign paperwork and I'm gone.
What I can honestly say now is that 90% of prior enlistments are all 18X contracts only.... HOWEVER, since they are pulling MOS's for 2012 already an Opt 40 contract is very possible (just twist the recruiters arm a bit).
The recruiter I'm currently working with is going to keep me abreast on the situation and give me a heads up on an 11X Opt 40 contract as soon as one is available so the moment my DOS is close enough I just have to sign paperwork and I'm gone.
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things...The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
J.S. Mill
J.S. Mill