Mumbai Terrorist Attacks
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Mumbai Terrorist Attacks
By Friday morning, authorities believed militants still were in two luxury hotels and a Jewish center in the city.
The following is what is known about the attacks:
• Gunmen arrived by boats at the Mumbai waterfront near the Gateway of India monument on Wednesday night, police said. The gunmen hijacked cars, including a police van, and split into at least three groups to carry out the attacks, according to police.
• One group headed toward the Cafe Leopold, a popular hangout for Western tourists, firing indiscriminately at passers-by on the street. The group then opened fire and lobbed grenades at the Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus railway station, authorities said.
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Rangers I know nothing about international politics or how SOF forces are ran. But why did this conflict go on so long without the Indian government admitting they could not handle the situation and asking for help? I am pretty certain US, British, or Israeli SOF units could have ended this thing in a more timely matter.
The following is what is known about the attacks:
• Gunmen arrived by boats at the Mumbai waterfront near the Gateway of India monument on Wednesday night, police said. The gunmen hijacked cars, including a police van, and split into at least three groups to carry out the attacks, according to police.
• One group headed toward the Cafe Leopold, a popular hangout for Western tourists, firing indiscriminately at passers-by on the street. The group then opened fire and lobbed grenades at the Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus railway station, authorities said.
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Rangers I know nothing about international politics or how SOF forces are ran. But why did this conflict go on so long without the Indian government admitting they could not handle the situation and asking for help? I am pretty certain US, British, or Israeli SOF units could have ended this thing in a more timely matter.
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From what I have read it was 10 different places at the same time and some of these hotels had thousands of rooms. Imagine how long it would take to clear them. I understand there was one British/Cypriot man that called his family and was even on a British news show (by cell telephone) saying he is okay, then a few minutes after he ended his call the terrorists arrived in the room he was in and asked for his passport. He showed a British passport and was shot and killed. It was and still is at the Taj a very fluid environment.
During the initial attacks the terrorists that where in the large hotels moved and could not be hit. Eventually they got them. Except for the Taj in which the hostage situation is still on going or at least was 1 hour ago.
Remember that even with the best case scenario a simple hostage situation takes time. Add to that thousands of rooms and the language issue. I have heard that Israel sent commandos to the Jewish place that was hit. Although not confirmed.
EDIT: The Oberoi hotel has 800 rooms. I understand the Taj is larger.
During the initial attacks the terrorists that where in the large hotels moved and could not be hit. Eventually they got them. Except for the Taj in which the hostage situation is still on going or at least was 1 hour ago.
Remember that even with the best case scenario a simple hostage situation takes time. Add to that thousands of rooms and the language issue. I have heard that Israel sent commandos to the Jewish place that was hit. Although not confirmed.
EDIT: The Oberoi hotel has 800 rooms. I understand the Taj is larger.
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I also understand that at least one of the gunmen was from Pakistan and a few from Afghanistan the rest from India.
This attack required planning and logistics, which must have had external help. Although there has been Hindu/Muslim issues for many years and police have put the blame on that, I still believe that other terrorist organizations assisted. This was too big.
It wasn’t 7 places that were hit but 10 and they were hit all at once. Speed timing and weapons used indicate planning that took a long time.
One other thing that sticks to mind is that the terrorists were looking for U.S., British and Jewish or Israeli targets. That indicates that this wasn’t just about the Hindu/Muslim issue.
This attack required planning and logistics, which must have had external help. Although there has been Hindu/Muslim issues for many years and police have put the blame on that, I still believe that other terrorist organizations assisted. This was too big.
It wasn’t 7 places that were hit but 10 and they were hit all at once. Speed timing and weapons used indicate planning that took a long time.
One other thing that sticks to mind is that the terrorists were looking for U.S., British and Jewish or Israeli targets. That indicates that this wasn’t just about the Hindu/Muslim issue.
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More news.
30 more dead were found at the Oberoi and 50 at the Taj.
Also I saw a very fast video of commandos fast roping in on the roof of the Jewish center. I could not tell who they where but the helo was not ours. It looked Indian but the commandos looked from a distance bigger than the standard Indian body type.
EDIT: The fast ropers on second look seem to be wearing the standard Indian black commando helmet.
30 more dead were found at the Oberoi and 50 at the Taj.
Also I saw a very fast video of commandos fast roping in on the roof of the Jewish center. I could not tell who they where but the helo was not ours. It looked Indian but the commandos looked from a distance bigger than the standard Indian body type.
EDIT: The fast ropers on second look seem to be wearing the standard Indian black commando helmet.
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I just watched CNN live outside Chabad house the Jewish center. All hell is breaking lose. Serious gunfire both heavy MG and other. Continuous fire like someone or some unit is in there cleaning house!
You can see Indian military outside and inside there is lots of shooting!
They say that there was a military ground assault from the ground floor and one from the roof. You can imagine what is going on inside!
They are trying to rap it up before nightfall.
You can see Indian military outside and inside there is lots of shooting!
They say that there was a military ground assault from the ground floor and one from the roof. You can imagine what is going on inside!
They are trying to rap it up before nightfall.
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According to CNN the situation at Chabad house has ended. No results or casualties have been posted.
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So far 146 dead total and about 300 injured. There are explosions still on going at the Taj Hotel.
A high government official claims without guarantee that the attack was devised and planned from outside India. Chaos, now they are saying that there is commando movement on the roof of Chabad house and that it may not be over yet.
At the Taj hotel there is gunfire again and some explosions. Chaos total chaos!
A high government official claims without guarantee that the attack was devised and planned from outside India. Chaos, now they are saying that there is commando movement on the roof of Chabad house and that it may not be over yet.
At the Taj hotel there is gunfire again and some explosions. Chaos total chaos!
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The bodies of five hostages have been found at a Jewish center in Mumbai, according to reports, and fighting still rages at a hotel in the city two days after terrorists launched a series of deadly attacks.
Israeli Foreign Ministry official spokesman Haim Hoshen told an Israel news station five bodies had been found.
( Its still unclear at this point if the terrorists killed them or they were killed during the assault.)
The death toll from Wednesday's attacks in ten locations was 155 -- three Germans, two Americans, an Italian, a Briton, an Australian and one Chinese were among the at least 15 foreigners killed -- with a further 327 injured, CNN-IBN reported.
CNN also confirmed that the United States did offer SF forces and is still on stand-by if asked to enter the country.
Israeli Foreign Ministry official spokesman Haim Hoshen told an Israel news station five bodies had been found.
( Its still unclear at this point if the terrorists killed them or they were killed during the assault.)
The death toll from Wednesday's attacks in ten locations was 155 -- three Germans, two Americans, an Italian, a Briton, an Australian and one Chinese were among the at least 15 foreigners killed -- with a further 327 injured, CNN-IBN reported.
CNN also confirmed that the United States did offer SF forces and is still on stand-by if asked to enter the country.
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I stayed in that hotel about 20 months ago. This type of thing is bound to happen in a place as populated and tense as India.
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A Greek/Cypriot was also shot and killed after he showed his British passport.
He was a ship owner. His worth was at 300 million sterling pounds. Not even money will save you!
He was a ship owner. His worth was at 300 million sterling pounds. Not even money will save you!
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We have just observed a disciplined, well trained, band of terrorists terrorists at work, To achieve this level of violence, a lot of planning and preparation was needed. The question should be, who is responsible?
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To me since they were after U.S., U.K. and Jewish citizens it points in one direction. The same one that brings in foreign fighters to join the Taliban. I believe its Al Qaida that paid for this and trained them.Jim wrote:We have just observed a disciplined, well trained, band of terrorists terrorists at work, To achieve this level of violence, a lot of planning and preparation was needed. The question should be, who is responsible?
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Comforting words I suppose but a plan, an execution, and standoff like this isnt cowardly. Bold as hell I think. Straping bombs to women and kids and sending them amoung the masses...THAT is cowardly. Not sure who but you will notice....these fuckers are trained and committed. Going into a situation where you KNOW the end result is your death...call it what you will and label it anyway you like...I call it bold.TC204 wrote:They're still freakin cowards.Jim wrote:We have just observed a disciplined, well trained, band of terrorists terrorists at work, To achieve this level of violence, a lot of planning and preparation was needed.
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