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Somalia Service Not Eligible for VFW Membership

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Word is over on US Paratrooper.us that the VFW is ejecting members whose membership is being based ONLY on Somalia service.

Has anyone heard anything else?
a Lt. with the Rangers during the Somolia Campaign. He missed Desert Storm and go out of the Military after his commitment, pretty much because what he went thru in Mogodishu soured him on a lot of things. He had been a Life Member of the VFW and last night I got this.

This is what he sent me.

"...evidently Somalia does not count as a Foreign War because no AEFM was ever issued. I called them up and asked them if the Bronze Star with V-device I was awarded and that they should see on my dd-214 was good enough, and they said "No". To which I asked, "Well war hasn't officially been declared in Iraq and was never declared in Vietnam, so all those members are void as well?"

He said, "A campaign medal was authorized and awarded for both those actions."

The guy said because of Iraq, their fradulent membership is way up (I guess people saying they were in Iraq but weren't), anyway I sent them my dd-214 like 10 years ago, now suddenly this is an issue. I called a buddy of mine who was there with me, and they did the same thing to him.

From talking to a few other people, this is a very "Good Ole Boy" run organization, that was controlled up to about 5 years ago by WWII vets, and is now controlled by Korean Vets (ironic that was never a declared war either).

Basically there are two main criterea, you have to be in the combat zone for a minimum of 30 days (we were there for about 25), and there has to be a campaign ribbon.

Grenada, Bosnia, Panama, Desert Storm, Vietnam, Bosnia, Desert Storm II (or whatever they call the current one) all have them, we did not.
Something not smell right?
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Eligibility

The VFW welcomes all who meet our eligibility criteria. It is through service to this country that our membership has earned their elite status.

If you have received a campaign medal for overseas service; have served 30 consecutive or 60 non-consecutive days in Korea; or have ever received hostile fire or imminent danger pay, then you are eligible.
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Based on their published criteria, I would say that they would honor the service of Somalia veterans.
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Check edit in quotes.... something may not smell right...
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RetPara wrote:Check edit in quotes.... something may not smell right...
Not quite sure what you're getting at. I am not a member of the VFW because it's not important to me. I have heard too many stories of legitimate veterans getting slammed when they try and call out a poser who is part of the local good 'ol boy network.
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Retpara

Have not heard of it.

Can you PM me the contact info on the LT?
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The VFW application lists Somalia as one of the eligable events.

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Silverback wrote:
RetPara wrote:Check edit in quotes.... something may not smell right...
Not quite sure what you're getting at. I am not a member of the VFW because it's not important to me. I have heard too many stories of legitimate veterans getting slammed when they try and call out a poser who is part of the local good 'ol boy network.
Fuck that Dan, join...they need more "young blood" like you and me :lol: :lol: (lifer)...but seriousy..they can't "slam a legit vet" for calling out a poser....that good ole boy network thing only works in rural BFE..I have full co-operation from my post in outing asshole wannabee's....cant find Butch Westbrock...but they support me anyway :lol: :lol:
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In Haiti we recieved immenent danger pay. I still don't think that I qualify for VFW membership.

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RetPara wrote:Bravo57 - shot out - Over
Received.... Thanks

Could be interesting. The name is not familiar or on the list.
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The VFW accepts both the AFEM & the N/MCEM.
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Ranger Bill wrote:When I returned from Vietnam, the VFW gave a cold shoulder to me and a lot of other guys at that time. Now they keep sending me stuff to join, but I've got ArmyRanger.com and the 75th RRA.
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