Worse than pregnant females...Ranger Instructors that did a 3-month augmentation in Afghanistan are wearing the Shoulder Sleeve Insignia–Former Wartime Service (SSI–FWTS)Der Professor wrote:This past weekend I was in Boston, and went to a local town festival. There was a NG MP wearing the Special Forces Arrowhead with lightning bolts and Airborne tab on his right shoulder. I noticed he wasn't wearing jump wings and had some NG patch on his left.
Being curious I asked him which SF group he was with and when he went through the Q-course. His response floored me. He informed me that he infact had not attended the Q-course, but was attached to 3rd Group in Afghanistan. Shocked, I told I had never heard of anything like that before. He was polite and said he wouldn't wear it unless he had earned it.
Is this right? Are non-Sf personnel wearing SF combat patches? So if a female cook is attached to a Ranger BN she can wear a BN scroll on her right shoulder?
This reminds me of the yahoos running around Bragg, pregnant on profile wearing a green beret! WTFO?
Appendix F
Shoulder Sleeve Insignia–Former Wartime Service (SSI–FWTS)
F–1. Applicability.
This guidance applies to soldiers of all components (Active, ARNG and USAR) that deploy during periods of service designated for wear of the SSI–FWTS, in accordance with paragraph 28–17.
F–2. General.
a. There is no time-in-theater requirement to be authorized to wear the SSI–FWTS.
b. A deployed unit that is authorized to wear an SSI in its own right (or an organic component thereof), in accordance with para 28–16, will wear that unit’s SSI as the SSI–FWTS. This is true regardless of whether the
headquarters element deploys, and regardless of the number of changes to the unit’s alignment or operational control (OPCON) during the period of deployment.
c. When a unit not entitled to its own SSI deploys, the OPCON relationship prior to deployment is terminated, and a new OPCON relationship is established. Members of these units will wear the SSI of the lowest echelon deployed unit entitled to an SSI in each of their new deployed chains of command as their SSI–FWTS.
d. When there is no intermediate unit that has its own SSI in the deployed chain of command, members of units not entitled to their own SSI will wear the SSI of the senior Army command in the theater as their SSI–FWTS.
e. Soldiers who are cross-leveled, assigned, attached, or augmenting deployed units, and soldiers who are TDY on orders through the use of DD Form 1610 (Request and Authorization for TDY Travel of DOD Personnel) will wear the same SSI–FWTS worn by members of the deployed unit(s) to which attached or OPCON. This does not apply to
members of Trial Defense and CIDC, who will wear the SSI of their respective commands as their SSI–FWTS.
f. Soldiers authorized to wear more than one SSI–FWTS may choose which SSI–FWTS they wear. Soldiers also may elect not to wear the SSI–FWTS.
g. Precedence was established in Vietnam for elements organic to, or an integral part of an organization to wear the organizational SSI as their SSI–FWTS.
I think we found a way to fook with the great ape... :D Actually I still cringe when people call a First Sergeant "Top".... Hell I am civilian and I will never do that.