Serious request for assistance
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Serious request for assistance
Rangers and veterans I am asking for your assistance. Here is the situation. My dad was in the 20th Engineer Brigade during Vietnam. I think he was in country in 1967/68. He just went to a unit reunion. He has been reluctant to speak about most things he saw or participated in while in country. He does relate some stories but they are superficial like people pulling duty stirring the massive shit barrels to burn them down or what the beer was like. Once he alluded to that he saw combat. I have been trying to find out some of the unit history on my own but have been having some difficulty understanding the information since it is in Army-ese and not jarhead. Also the information that I have found did not go into what if any combat action the unit may have seen.
Professionaly, I strongly suspect he has some form of PTSD. The symptoms have eased over the years but they begin to gain in severity whenever these reunions happen. Ethicly, I can't assist him because of the secondary relationship clause. So professionaly I have concerns and my hands are bound by the law. However, what I can do is get him talking and see what his thought process is and then make a referral for treatment if needed. I need some unit information first as he has been dodging questions or changing the topic for over thirty years.
Unfortunately, he won't go to the VA or some other treatment provider. Once my brothers and I actually were able to get him to fill out paperwork after he had a very bad episode but he came up with a number of bullshit reasons why he shouldn't bother the VA. As you can tell I and my family are worried about him. I know a person has to want to help themselves first but he's my father.
I would greatly appreciate any assitance. My sincere thanks.
Professionaly, I strongly suspect he has some form of PTSD. The symptoms have eased over the years but they begin to gain in severity whenever these reunions happen. Ethicly, I can't assist him because of the secondary relationship clause. So professionaly I have concerns and my hands are bound by the law. However, what I can do is get him talking and see what his thought process is and then make a referral for treatment if needed. I need some unit information first as he has been dodging questions or changing the topic for over thirty years.
Unfortunately, he won't go to the VA or some other treatment provider. Once my brothers and I actually were able to get him to fill out paperwork after he had a very bad episode but he came up with a number of bullshit reasons why he shouldn't bother the VA. As you can tell I and my family are worried about him. I know a person has to want to help themselves first but he's my father.
I would greatly appreciate any assitance. My sincere thanks.
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -Henery Louis Mencken (1880-1956)
"I might not be Airborne however, it's whats on my right sleave!"
*1992-1996 USMC CPL
* 12/2005- present USAR Medic PL/ Human Terrain Teams
"I might not be Airborne however, it's whats on my right sleave!"
*1992-1996 USMC CPL
* 12/2005- present USAR Medic PL/ Human Terrain Teams
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The unit has some nice History. Please thank your father for his service and know that he is in my prayers.
You might want to contact the VA yourself and talk o a counselour and tell them the situation. I have heard of couselours at theVA making the initial contact to Veterans in need of Counseling. Another option may be see if he will get involved with the VFW or the American Legion. Both are great organizations. I am the Past Commander for teh local VFW here and I have seen numerours cases where War Vets from WWII to Viet Nam can talk to others who expierienced the same dea. They could talk to thier families because they couldn't relate. However when they tlkaed to others that were and are in the same boat they talk more easily. Good Luck
The unit has some nice History. Please thank your father for his service and know that he is in my prayers.
You might want to contact the VA yourself and talk o a counselour and tell them the situation. I have heard of couselours at theVA making the initial contact to Veterans in need of Counseling. Another option may be see if he will get involved with the VFW or the American Legion. Both are great organizations. I am the Past Commander for teh local VFW here and I have seen numerours cases where War Vets from WWII to Viet Nam can talk to others who expierienced the same dea. They could talk to thier families because they couldn't relate. However when they tlkaed to others that were and are in the same boat they talk more easily. Good Luck
It's all good.
If your old man is adamant about receiving any treatment or even begining a treatment which may in fact cause him more harm or even great distress.
One item, you can give him your personal comfort. That seems to have worked for him for years.
So until he collapses and has to be taken to a local V.A. hospital you just have to wait.
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One item, you can give him your personal comfort. That seems to have worked for him for years.
So until he collapses and has to be taken to a local V.A. hospital you just have to wait.
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RLTW
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69-70
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Steadfast
4/325 82d DIV 68-69
2nd Bde HHC (LRRP), 4 ID
K Co (Rgr), 75th Inf (Abn), 4 ID
69-70
I cooked with C- 4
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The PTSD group at the VA here has weekly meetings at the center, but they also meet about once a week at a local restaurant. Try calling the center to see if they do this. Our counselor is also a Vietnam vet.
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Ladies and gentleman,
I thank you for your assistance and wisdom. I will explore the avenues of approach that you have suggested.
Again my sincere thanks.
Cliff
I thank you for your assistance and wisdom. I will explore the avenues of approach that you have suggested.
Again my sincere thanks.
Cliff
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -Henery Louis Mencken (1880-1956)
"I might not be Airborne however, it's whats on my right sleave!"
*1992-1996 USMC CPL
* 12/2005- present USAR Medic PL/ Human Terrain Teams
"I might not be Airborne however, it's whats on my right sleave!"
*1992-1996 USMC CPL
* 12/2005- present USAR Medic PL/ Human Terrain Teams
I am posting to say thanks again for all the PM's of advice and support. Believe it or not, I am at a loss for words not because I am suprised at the responce but because of the contents of the advice, wisdom, compassion and concern that has been expressed.
Thank you.
Thank you.
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -Henery Louis Mencken (1880-1956)
"I might not be Airborne however, it's whats on my right sleave!"
*1992-1996 USMC CPL
* 12/2005- present USAR Medic PL/ Human Terrain Teams
"I might not be Airborne however, it's whats on my right sleave!"
*1992-1996 USMC CPL
* 12/2005- present USAR Medic PL/ Human Terrain Teams
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Ranger KH,Kilted Heathen wrote:Have you considered getting him a hooker? :D
I am sure my mother would appreciate that.
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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -Henery Louis Mencken (1880-1956)
"I might not be Airborne however, it's whats on my right sleave!"
*1992-1996 USMC CPL
* 12/2005- present USAR Medic PL/ Human Terrain Teams
"I might not be Airborne however, it's whats on my right sleave!"
*1992-1996 USMC CPL
* 12/2005- present USAR Medic PL/ Human Terrain Teams
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There's your answer!
Tart your mother up in a wig and slip her 50 bucks!
Tart your mother up in a wig and slip her 50 bucks!
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RS 12-91
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WTC PRC 05-06
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WTC PRC 07-2010
TF Wolf MUTC 2010-
"The lapdance is always better when the stripper is crying"
The trouble with Scotland is it's full of Scots!
RS 12-91
RI 4RTB 92-94
H Co.121(ABN)(LRS)04-PRESENT
WTC PRC 05-06
OIF 06-07
WTC PRC 07-2010
TF Wolf MUTC 2010-
"The lapdance is always better when the stripper is crying"
The trouble with Scotland is it's full of Scots!
Re: Serious request for assistance
I hope things get better for your dad. He must be so proud to have such a caring son such as yourself. Hang in there.Darksaga wrote:Rangers and veterans I am asking for your assistance. Here is the situation. My dad was in the 20th Engineer Brigade during Vietnam. I think he was in country in 1967/68. He just went to a unit reunion. He has been reluctant to speak about most things he saw or participated in while in country. He does relate some stories but they are superficial like people pulling duty stirring the massive shit barrels to burn them down or what the beer was like. Once he alluded to that he saw combat. I have been trying to find out some of the unit history on my own but have been having some difficulty understanding the information since it is in Army-ese and not jarhead. Also the information that I have found did not go into what if any combat action the unit may have seen.
Professionaly, I strongly suspect he has some form of PTSD. The symptoms have eased over the years but they begin to gain in severity whenever these reunions happen. Ethicly, I can't assist him because of the secondary relationship clause. So professionaly I have concerns and my hands are bound by the law. However, what I can do is get him talking and see what his thought process is and then make a referral for treatment if needed. I need some unit information first as he has been dodging questions or changing the topic for over thirty years.
Unfortunately, he won't go to the VA or some other treatment provider. Once my brothers and I actually were able to get him to fill out paperwork after he had a very bad episode but he came up with a number of bullshit reasons why he shouldn't bother the VA. As you can tell I and my family are worried about him. I know a person has to want to help themselves first but he's my father.
I would greatly appreciate any assitance. My sincere thanks.
Dude, you got it wrong... His FATHER slips her the 50...Kilted Heathen wrote:There's your answer!
Tart your mother up in a wig and slip her 50 bucks!
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1st Plt B 2/75 - Sniper
Ranger classes 4-80 & 9-80
3/60 INF 9th ID
2/278 ACR TN NG
3/319 INF 80TH ID
4/4 FA
11th USAFAD (8" Special Wpns)
D/96 CA (A)
JIATF-East (Counter Drug)
478 CA (FID/UW) (IFOR/SFOR)
5 SFG (A) (OIF 1)
USSOCOM - Retired AUG 09
Biometrics Mgmt Office (AFG) (SAIC)
PM DoD Biometrics - Operations (SAIC)
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If she manages the disguise of course he will!
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Bloody officers, no knack at all for the obvious.
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312th LRS 1st CAV 89-91
RS 12-91
RI 4RTB 92-94
H Co.121(ABN)(LRS)04-PRESENT
WTC PRC 05-06
OIF 06-07
WTC PRC 07-2010
TF Wolf MUTC 2010-
"The lapdance is always better when the stripper is crying"
The trouble with Scotland is it's full of Scots!
RS 12-91
RI 4RTB 92-94
H Co.121(ABN)(LRS)04-PRESENT
WTC PRC 05-06
OIF 06-07
WTC PRC 07-2010
TF Wolf MUTC 2010-
"The lapdance is always better when the stripper is crying"
The trouble with Scotland is it's full of Scots!