20% Military Retirement Pay Cut
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20% Military Retirement Pay Cut
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Re: 20% Military Retirement Pay Cut
Go figure.
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Re: 20% Military Retirement Pay Cut
The date on the article is 01APR15. Could this be a prank? I googled and found nothing specific to this.rangerjd wrote:http://www.onemarinesview.com/one_marin ... .html#more
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Re: 20% Military Retirement Pay Cut
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Ranger Class 10-68
2/27 Inf 25th Inf Div Vietnam 01/69-01/70
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Re: 20% Military Retirement Pay Cut
I get a daily email from Military.com and they had as article on the 20% pay cut, I just like the way this guy said it better.rangertough wrote:The date on the article is 01APR15. Could this be a prank? I googled and found nothing specific to this.rangerjd wrote:http://www.onemarinesview.com/one_marin ... .html#more
Ranger Class 8-82
C Co 2/75 80-83-HCMTC 83-85
Drill Sgt 85-87-Sapper Instructor 87-89
A Co 2/75 89-90-G3 I Corps 90-91
I Corps LRSC 91-93-7th RTB RI 94-95
Retired 95
"I'd rather spend 10 seconds in the saddle, than a life time of watching from the stands." Chris Ledoux
C Co 2/75 80-83-HCMTC 83-85
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A Co 2/75 89-90-G3 I Corps 90-91
I Corps LRSC 91-93-7th RTB RI 94-95
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"I'd rather spend 10 seconds in the saddle, than a life time of watching from the stands." Chris Ledoux
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Re: 20% Military Retirement Pay Cut
rangerjd wrote:I get a daily email from Military.com and they had as article on the 20% pay cut, I just like the way this guy said it better.rangertough wrote:The date on the article is 01APR15. Could this be a prank? I googled and found nothing specific to this.rangerjd wrote:http://www.onemarinesview.com/one_marin ... .html#more
Well that's a kick in the nuts. Thanks, my google fu is weak.al_2ndWolfhounds wrote:I guess this is part of the joke.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... ement-pay/
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Re: 20% Military Retirement Pay Cut
Is it such a stretch to relook the military retirement system? In excess of 80% of enlisted personnel do not draw a pension, so if judged as an incetive for longevity it is a failure.
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Re: 20% Military Retirement Pay Cut
Relook? Yes. Cut benefits no. I'd like a solid retirement plan that actually delivers and can be taken with you when you get out after 4 years. Maybe some financial planning advice for SoldiersSilverback wrote:Is it such a stretch to relook the military retirement system? In excess of 80% of enlisted personnel do not draw a pension, so if judged as an incetive for longevity it is a failure.
I've never felt it was used as an incentive for junior enlisted. I felt it was an incentive keep Senior NCO's from quiting because they're sick of the quasi-political bullshit that starts to happen at the levels they're operating at. If that incentive didn't exist for me or many of my peers I would have pissed on the CSM's (at that point in my dealings with the Army it would have been any CSM) desk and walked out at 17 years. It wasn't even about the utter lack of professionalism or even ability I saw in CSM/SGM community. It was the selfishness.
If the 20 year retirement didn't exist (or is modified too extensively) the Army would/will lose a MASSIVE number of SNCO'S. Who's going to do the work on staff, SGM's? Give me a break. Too busy worrying about coffee and who gets the nice chairs in the TOC and conference rooms.
At the end of the day you could cut retirement benefits all together, for everyone who's serving or currently retired and it wouldn't save enough money to do any good at all. This initiative is smoke and mirrors to appease a constituency that hates us. It's a measure that is easy to make look effective but will piss off a very small part of a population that almost exclusively votes Republican. The same population that in each Presidential election gets their votes invalidated when 50k+ absentee ballots get thrown out for GP.
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Re: 20% Military Retirement Pay Cut
Over time, the rules evolve. As an example, There was a time when you could "sell back" 60 days leave when you ETSed or reenlisted. In the early 1970s that rule was changed, but I was "grandfathered" because I had over 60 days on the book when the change was instituted. When I retired, I got paid for my 60 days I had retained. A nice piece of change.
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Re: 20% Military Retirement Pay Cut
You can sell up to 60 days leave, once in your career.
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200 meters of green shit next to a river in the desert does not qualify as a "Crescent of Fertility" -me
"The meek shall inherit the earth, one meter wide and two meters long" -Lazarus Long
Re: 20% Military Retirement Pay Cut
I had sold 60 days when I reenlisted in 1969. In those days, you could sell 60 days each time you REUPed, ETSed or retired, Today it's a one time event.KW Driver wrote:You can sell up to 60 days leave, once in your career.
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Re: 20% Military Retirement Pay Cut
Yep, mine was currently. Or.... Currently, and as long as I've been aware of it, during the last 22 yrs., anyway.
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RS 10-94.
200 meters of green shit next to a river in the desert does not qualify as a "Crescent of Fertility" -me
"The meek shall inherit the earth, one meter wide and two meters long" -Lazarus Long
RS 10-94.
200 meters of green shit next to a river in the desert does not qualify as a "Crescent of Fertility" -me
"The meek shall inherit the earth, one meter wide and two meters long" -Lazarus Long
Re: 20% Military Retirement Pay Cut
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Why is it whenever they want to cut money it's always from the people who help give them the freedoms that they have. Why can't we cut the pensions of the politicians and all the unelected bureaucrats.
Why is it whenever they want to cut money it's always from the people who help give them the freedoms that they have. Why can't we cut the pensions of the politicians and all the unelected bureaucrats.
Ranger Class 8-82
C Co 2/75 80-83-HCMTC 83-85
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Retired 95
"I'd rather spend 10 seconds in the saddle, than a life time of watching from the stands." Chris Ledoux
C Co 2/75 80-83-HCMTC 83-85
Drill Sgt 85-87-Sapper Instructor 87-89
A Co 2/75 89-90-G3 I Corps 90-91
I Corps LRSC 91-93-7th RTB RI 94-95
Retired 95
"I'd rather spend 10 seconds in the saddle, than a life time of watching from the stands." Chris Ledoux