Bergdahl Charged With Desertion
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Bergdahl Charged With Desertion
It's about time.
American soldier and former Taliban captive Bowe Bergdahl has been charged with desertion for his disappearance from an Afghan outpost in 2009, Bergdahl's attorney told ABC News today.
Bergdahl was freed after five years in Taliban captivity in a controversial deal last year in which the U.S. agreed to release five mid- to high-level Taliban figures from detention in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. As part of the deal, the Taliban five were relocated to Qatar.President Obama called it a "good day" when Bergdahl was freed, but critics, including some high-ranking Republicans, loudly denounced the deal, likening it to negotiating with terrorists. Also, lawmakers complained that Congress had not been consulted about the exchange, as they said the law requires.
After Bergdahl's dramatic return to the U.S., the Army launched an investigation into whether the soldier willfully left his post in Afghanistan before he was taken by the Taliban in 2009, as some Afghan war veterans alleged.
That investigation was concluded last October and was forwarded to senior Army leaders at the Pentagon who then designated Army Forces Command to determine whether he should face punishment. The Army is expected to formally announce Bergdahl's fate later today.
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American soldier and former Taliban captive Bowe Bergdahl has been charged with desertion for his disappearance from an Afghan outpost in 2009, Bergdahl's attorney told ABC News today.
Bergdahl was freed after five years in Taliban captivity in a controversial deal last year in which the U.S. agreed to release five mid- to high-level Taliban figures from detention in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. As part of the deal, the Taliban five were relocated to Qatar.President Obama called it a "good day" when Bergdahl was freed, but critics, including some high-ranking Republicans, loudly denounced the deal, likening it to negotiating with terrorists. Also, lawmakers complained that Congress had not been consulted about the exchange, as they said the law requires.
After Bergdahl's dramatic return to the U.S., the Army launched an investigation into whether the soldier willfully left his post in Afghanistan before he was taken by the Taliban in 2009, as some Afghan war veterans alleged.
That investigation was concluded last October and was forwarded to senior Army leaders at the Pentagon who then designated Army Forces Command to determine whether he should face punishment. The Army is expected to formally announce Bergdahl's fate later today.
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Re: Bergdahl Charged With Desertion
Should he be convicted, what are the odds he will receive a presidential pardon?
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I'd say better than the odds I'll eat in the next 24 hours....Should he be convicted, what are the odds he will receive a presidential pardon?
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Re: Bergdahl Charged With Desertion
The question is what are the odds that the present administration allows it to conclude during his term?Lefty wrote:Should he be convicted, what are the odds he will receive a presidential pardon?
Between the defense asking for time to prepare, the pressure from above to allow it, the actual conduct of the Article 32 and the Court Martial this could take years.
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Re: Bergdahl Charged With Desertion
The outcome I expect.al_2ndWolfhounds wrote:The question is what are the odds that the present administration allows it to conclude during his term?Lefty wrote:Should he be convicted, what are the odds he will receive a presidential pardon?
Between the defense asking for time to prepare, the pressure from above to allow it, the actual conduct of the Article 32 and the Court Martial this could take years.
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Re: Bergdahl Charged With Desertion
Even if, and that is a big IF, he loses back pay and benefits, I am confident his lawyer(s) are negotiating right this moment for book and movie rights.
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Re: Bergdahl Charged With Desertion
Dana Perino, past White House Press Secretary, just reported on Fox that the announcement at Ft. Bragg was a surprise to the Pentagon. Apparently they did not know about the press conference. If so, could this be the dead end of a career?
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Or someone already on the way out said "FUCK IT".al_2ndWolfhounds wrote:Dana Perino, past White House Press Secretary, just reported on Fox that the announcement at Ft. Bragg was a surprise to the Pentagon. Apparently they did not know about the press conference. If so, could this be the dead end of a career?
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I hope he's tried and convicted in Utah.
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I'm betting somewhere, some how he gets off on a technicality, but Cams I like your way of thinking.
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I agree, even if he's found guilty, which I think he eventually will be, there's just too much backlash from the trade already, but he won't do a day. They'll say his time 'served' with AQ will be it.rangerjd wrote:I'm betting somewhere, some how he gets off on a technicality, but Cams I like your way of thinking.
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'Now, which guy is a hero again?’ Wife of soldier left paralyzed and unable to speak after risking his life to save ‘deserter’ Bowe Bergdahl vents her fury on social media
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ssage.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ssage.html
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Re: Bergdahl Charged With Desertion
Old but appropriate article. Notice a UK publication carried this story.Jim wrote: 'Now, which guy is a hero again?’ Wife of soldier left paralyzed and unable to speak after risking his life to save ‘deserter’ Bowe Bergdahl vents her fury on social media
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ssage.html
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Re: Bergdahl Charged With Desertion
When convicted, Bergdahl will be reduced in rank to E-1, forfeit all pay and receive a Dishonorable discharge. Anyone want to bet?
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Re: Bergdahl Charged With Desertion
As the Spartans said to Phillip II "If"...Slowpoke wrote:When convicted, Bergdahl will be reduced in rank to E-1, forfeit all pay and receive a Dishonorable discharge. Anyone want to bet?
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