Excused felony
Excused felony
Hello, i am currently talking to the army recruiters, i have a felony, 2 parking tickets and 1 seat belt ticket, i know i need security clearance to become a ranger, they are doing some process with my felony. Its not a waver i just cant for the life of me remember what its called. So here's my question. With that felony can i join the rangers? Its for a 2nd degree assault when i was 13 years old sense then ive kept my nose clean (besides the parking tickets and seat belt ticket, which are paid in full) and the person it was against is sending a letter into the recruiter as an added bonus? I will be singing the papers in a week, if its not possible ill just go with the 11x and jump school and bust my ass and hope to god i can some how join the best. Thank you for your time.
Re: Excused felony
I would worry about even getting into the Army much less getting a security clearance with that felony on your record.
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Re: Excused felony
Actually, disregard my post until you go make an introduction in the proper forum.
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Re: Excused felony
While that will be worth a visit to the recruiters to witness, you will go further if you sign the papers instead.Sezzy wrote:I will be singing the papers
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Re: Excused felony
2nd degree assault? That's just assault by Army standards (misdemeanor last I checked), and yes when combined with the tickets you will need a waiver. Not a FELONY WAIVER (Which goes to the CG and would be impossible given today's market) but a waiver nonetheless. I would take Ranger Goon175's advice and just look for the chance to join.
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Re: Excused felony
They are considering any felony a major misconduct, and last e-mail I got regardin major misconducts was that no waivers will be granted at this time.
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
-Theodore Roosevelt
1/75 2006 - 2010
-Theodore Roosevelt
1/75 2006 - 2010
Re: Excused felony
So they have moved ASSAULT from the MIS side over to the FEL side in AR 601-210? Or are you sayign that any conduct requiring a moral waiver will not be granted?goon175 wrote:They are considering any felony a major misconduct, and last e-mail I got regardin major misconducts was that no waivers will be granted at this time.
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Re: Excused felony
Moral waivers are being granted (although they are being alot more strict about it), but in 601-210 4-4 it states
So, even though the actual charge itself is a non-traffic offense or misconduct (depending on how big the fine was), because of the fact the charge was considered a felony by the court that puts it into major misconduct, which they are not granting waivers for right now. It could have been the same exact charge except listed as a misdemeanor, and he would have been fine.If the local law considers the offense a felony, then treat as a major misconduct.
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
-Theodore Roosevelt
1/75 2006 - 2010
-Theodore Roosevelt
1/75 2006 - 2010
Re: Excused felony
Definately different wording from my time on numbers. Thanks for the update.goon175 wrote:Moral waivers are being granted (although they are being alot more strict about it), but in 601-210 4-4 it states
So, even though the actual charge itself is a non-traffic offense or misconduct (depending on how big the fine was), because of the fact the charge was considered a felony by the court that puts it into major misconduct, which they are not granting waivers for right now. It could have been the same exact charge except listed as a misdemeanor, and he would have been fine.If the local law considers the offense a felony, then treat as a major misconduct.
MSG Hit_it
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Re: Excused felony
yeah they just put out a MAJOR revision of 601-210, so things got mixed up pretty good.
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
-Theodore Roosevelt
1/75 2006 - 2010
-Theodore Roosevelt
1/75 2006 - 2010