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Army activates first reconnaissance squadron

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FORT BRAGG, N.C. — A North Carolina Army post will activate a new reconnaissance and surveillance unit based on lessons learned from combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The 525th Battlefield Surveillance Brigade based at Fort Bragg will activate the 1st Squadron, 38th Cavalry (Reconnaissance & Surveillance) Regiment Thursday.

The squadron combines ground cavalry troops with an airborne long range surveillance company. It will be the Army's first reconnaissance and surveillance squadron.

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Ranger PantherSix,

Does airborne long range surveillance mean UAV's and drones or something reminiscent of LRRP teams?
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I think it's the later or traditional Ranger recon type companies. I've been out a while so don't quote me.
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Trigger wrote:Ranger PantherSix,

Does airborne long range surveillance mean UAV's and drones or something reminiscent of LRRP teams?
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Kilted Heathen wrote:
Trigger wrote:Ranger PantherSix,

Does airborne long range surveillance mean UAV's and drones or something reminiscent of LRRP teams?
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The 1st Squadron, 38th Cavalry combines two traditional Ground Cavalry Scout Troops with what was the old F/51st LRS. UAVs won't be added until late 2010. It will serve as a Corps level Recon element for units of the XVIII ABC. All the capabilities remain the same (ie.. SL, MFF, etc) they just now fall under a Manuever Command (CAV SQDN) as opposed to an Intel BN. There should be two more Squadrons following (2nd and 3rd) at Ft Lewis and Ft Hood where currently only LRS units are set up in their respective BFSBs.
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In Ft. Lewis? Thats good news for the 2nd Batt boys, now they can have someone teach them how to do dismounted patroling.
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. wrote:
dbmtrman wrote:In Ft. Lewis? Thats good news for the 2nd Batt boys, now they can have someone teach them how to do dismounted patroling.
Yeah that'll happen. :roll:

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CavCSM001 wrote:The 1st Squadron, 38th Cavalry combines two traditional Ground Cavalry Scout Troops with what was the old F/51st LRS. UAVs won't be added until late 2010. It will serve as a Corps level Recon element for units of the XVIII ABC. All the capabilities remain the same (ie.. SL, MFF, etc) they just now fall under a Manuever Command (CAV SQDN) as opposed to an Intel BN. There should be two more Squadrons following (2nd and 3rd) at Ft Lewis and Ft Hood where currently only LRS units are set up in their respective BFSBs.
There's already a BFSB at Ft. Lewis. I know because I'm on staff duty there right now. Typing this message.
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Rangertom wrote: It is extremely hard to find a commander that knows how, has the leadership courage, and will employ them properly.
This has been an issue for a very long time at Corps level. Some things never change.
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GoldCoast wrote:
CavCSM001 wrote:The 1st Squadron, 38th Cavalry combines two traditional Ground Cavalry Scout Troops with what was the old F/51st LRS. UAVs won't be added until late 2010. It will serve as a Corps level Recon element for units of the XVIII ABC. All the capabilities remain the same (ie.. SL, MFF, etc) they just now fall under a Manuever Command (CAV SQDN) as opposed to an Intel BN. There should be two more Squadrons following (2nd and 3rd) at Ft Lewis and Ft Hood where currently only LRS units are set up in their respective BFSBs.
There's already a BFSB at Ft. Lewis. I know because I'm on staff duty there right now. Typing this message.
The BFSBs have been in place for some time (BDE CDR is the old 519th MI CDR). As I said, only the LRS units are stood up in their respective BFSBs. The Cav Squadrons will not be established until later on.
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Rangertom wrote:F/51 is going/went away. There is talk here and here of keeping the linage but last I heard it was becoming a CAV troop. They are fighting just to keep the beret. The Ft. Hood LRSC was stood up as a troop and last I heard the Lewis one was the same. Cav has been pushing for them to be ‘Troops’ not Companies and Infantry/Ranger branch is happy just letting them go. Truth is most of there ops are mounted anyway. It is extreamly hard to find a commander that knows how, has the leadership courage, and will employ them properly.

Example: 1 AD threw a hissy fit because F/51 wanted to operate dismounted more than 30 minutes away from tank reinforcements (ETA 4 hours) in Iraq. It was absolute heresy to think 6 men would operate dismounted, in suspected enemy areas.
Who does that? :wink:
Actually, the Director of Force Management at DA, is the one who disapproved F/51st keeping their lineage, Cavalry/Ranger branch had nothing to do with it. They carried their Company guidon right up until the final decision came down. I can assure you there is no pressure on that company to assimilate to Armor/Cavalry as they offer a unique skill set to this organization. Their Company guidon changed, not their mission or capability. It is a shame that the Army saw it unfit to keep their proud lineage, however a decision has been made and in regards to an ever changing Army, I am sure it will not be the last decision many disagree with.
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