is good wrestling advantageous?

[wrestler]

I’m not sure if such a post is out of place, if so I apologize for my ignorance.

I’ve read through the posts in this section and have read much of MMA, BJJ, as well as various forms of self defense and forms of attack.

My question too all you experienced Rangers and combat competitors, does wrestling make a difference in H2H combat or training? I don’t mean a year of quick wrestling, but years of dedication and true skill. Will it be advantageous? Will it matter in basic or airborne or RIP?

Thank you Rangers and other personnel.

[EvilCouch]

If you train hard, then you'll be in better shape and be more mentally tough. It'll be an advantage in your training.

As far as your wrestling skills themselves, they'll helpful during combatives training, but they'll only take you so far. Your opponents are much more limited in what they can do to you in a wrestling match than in a combatives match, so you won't be able to take your skills and roll over absolutely everyone. However, some of the best guys I've fought against were college and high school wrestlers.

[Tater Nuts]

Always be aware of where the closest folding metal chair is.

[Rangerguru]

I’m not sure if such a post is out of place, if so I apologize for my ignorance.

I’ve read through the posts in this section and have read much of MMA, BJJ, as well as various forms of self defense and forms of attack.

My question too all you experienced Rangers and combat competitors, does wrestling make a difference in H2H combat or training? I don’t mean a year of quick wrestling, but years of dedication and true skill. Will it be advantageous? Will it matter in basic or airborne or RIP?

Thank you Rangers and other personnel.

It seems to work for Randy Couture and Matt Hughes.

[rangertough]

Being a MACP instructor I see wrestlers get their asses handed to them all the time. Only because they've trained themselves to not go to their back (a much better palce to be than face down in a H2H fight), get that bad habit out of your technique and wrestling will be a huge advatage for you. You know how to move yourself and your opponent around on the ground.

Tough

[Ranger Bill]

Wrestling will be a plus. Excelling at any sport brings many advantages in terms of physical fitness, the will to win and self discipline. Close combat is a pistol, a bayonet, knife, a swing or throw of the nearest suitable object, and repeated kicks.

[Slowpoke]

NEVER GO UNARMED TO A GUN FIGHT!!!!!

[wrestler]

Thank you, Rangers.

[Zonk 1/75]

Always be aware of where the closest folding metal chair is.

Jesus Tater. That was fucking funny.

[Bravo57]

Being a MACP instructor I see wrestlers get their asses handed to them all the time. Only because they've trained themselves to not go to their back (a much better palce to be than face down in a H2H fight), get that bad habit out of your technique and wrestling will be a huge advatage for you. You know how to move yourself and your opponent around on the ground.

Tough

You beat me to it.


When we first started the Gracie stuff, I kept getting my ass handed to me by guys who had a different background in martial arts or none at all.

Once I figured out it was a good thing to get to my back and get into the guard, things were very easy for me. The body mechanics of moving people around and the knowledge of where you are at on the mat are a big advantage.

Did you just wrestle for your school? Back in the day, High School wrestled Folk style. You had to wrestle for a club off season for Freestyle or Greco. I wrestled all three disciplines. Grecko definately helped with the Gracie stuff. Body weight / momemtum.

You speak of having a lot of experience, so please tell me what your wrestling background is.

I guess the bottom line is, now, your back is your friend. Just like when you were fucking around in the wrestling room with your buddy trying to "pin" yourself. Same thought.

[Lanista]

The chokes, submission moves and throws of judo with the throws and ground control of wrestling are a difficult combination of techniques for a striker to overcome. Kids stay out of the principal's office and avoid nasty suspensions while effectively defending themselves with techniques that don't require striking. Hitting an opponent with a fist is never as effective as hitting them with a brick wall, a parking lot or a bush. Lots of other benes all the way through college and life.

[42L5V]

Welcome to the site Lanista. Please post an introduction in the appropriate forum. We like to know who we're talking to.

[Zonk 1/75]

and might I add that good wrestling would be more advantageous than bad wrestling?

[FIST TEAM LTR]

I wonder what they called it went we fought hand to gland??

Any ring time, mat time, pit time is good. Wrestling is a good base for other techniques, I concur with not wanting to go to your back, you have to be comfortable in any position.

[JohnDowland]

Having been a wrestler during highschool helped me to kick ass during the circle jerk at Cole range; after getting to Batt it was less helpful. The H2H training given there emphasized short range striking, improvised use of on-hand items (helmet, empty CAR-15, handset cables, whatever), and some practical grappling. It seemed a better preparation for what might actually have taken place on a city street in Haiti, or some place similar.

They incorporated some good knife training as well. Being able to do this isn't all that effective when your opponent has a blade in your ribs. (Anyone here know who's sporting the scroll?)