Commissioned Officers getting smoked in Battalion.
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Commissioned Officers getting smoked in Battalion.
When a new Commissioned Officer gets to battalion does he get smoked by the NCOs since he outranks them? If NCOs cannot smoke him does he potentially get less smoking since he could only be smoked by Commissioned Officers?
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Ranger Spartan-Newly commissioned officers are not assigned to the 75th Ranger Regiment, only officers with a proven record of leadership already under their belt.
I would assume that to achieve a proven record of leadership you would have to spend time in a less elite combat unit such as 82nd Airborne or 101st Airborne before being considered for service in the 75th Ranger Regiment?
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You'd need to be Airborne and Ranger Qualified first. Second, you'd need a successful turn at being a platoon leader in an infantry unit. Then, you'd have to apply to attend Ranger Orientation Program, pass that, then successfuly pass a set of boards and evals, other than the physical requirements, marksmanship, swimming competence, etc.... - it's a pretty thorough process.
Then, you'd get a second chance at being a platoon leader, where every other 1st LT in the Army usually only gets one opportunity for doing so.
Then, you'd get a second chance at being a platoon leader, where every other 1st LT in the Army usually only gets one opportunity for doing so.
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The only time I saw officers get smoked was when D Grange was doing his Munga Dia (spelling) trips in the mountains. Then they were not doing pushups and such but were dragging ass all the same. It was kind of a mini Ranger School gut check thing. The best is when they were expecting a resupply and they got one from the partisans. It wasn’t a MRE, they got a ball of rice with a sardine in the middle. That was the funniest shit. I also know the 3rd Bat O’s used to gut check their new officers by running em down the Darby Trail when it was covered in CS powder. Did not make for a good run for us the next morning on the same trail.
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Just brought a major RIP memory back for me, back when we had Bn RIP at North Ft. Lewis. Good times.cbar10 wrote:down the Trail when it was covered in CS powder. Did not make for a good run for us the next morning on the same trail.
Of course, new officers to the Regiment usually did get smoked - smoked by the relentless pace of the first opportunity to have platoon PT with them.
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My first plt leader, LT Whitney, who later became company XO, said that "his ideal assignment was a RANGER BATT plt ldr. He also told me that infantry officers that wanted to make rank, needed to have that as part of their "resume".
He was the most HOOAH officer I met, while in the army.
He was the most HOOAH officer I met, while in the army.
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The only time I EVER saw an NCO drop an officer was in Jump School. But we all know about jump school.
As far as 2lt taking command, how it worked in the 82nd was a new officer had to spend at least 6 months in the S-1 or S-4 shop before they could get a platoon, also if they were not tabbed then they spent thier entire time in the S-4 shop. Believe or not I actually saw a 2lt at Bragg that failed Ranger School 3 times and they finally shipped him and would not let him be a holdover for a fourth try. I knew him for a bout a year and a half. He came to my Battalion and went straight to the S-4. A year and a half later he went to another Battalion in the same regiment and was put in the S-4 shop there, waiting for a slot for Ranger School.
The only time I EVER saw an NCO drop an officer was in Jump School. But we all know about jump school.
As far as 2lt taking command, how it worked in the 82nd was a new officer had to spend at least 6 months in the S-1 or S-4 shop before they could get a platoon, also if they were not tabbed then they spent thier entire time in the S-4 shop. Believe or not I actually saw a 2lt at Bragg that failed Ranger School 3 times and they finally shipped him and would not let him be a holdover for a fourth try. I knew him for a bout a year and a half. He came to my Battalion and went straight to the S-4. A year and a half later he went to another Battalion in the same regiment and was put in the S-4 shop there, waiting for a slot for Ranger School.
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Why do they make you do paperwork? :? I want to blow something up! Paper is quite flamable though....
Just to be sure we are talking about the same S-1 shop.
http://www.3coscom.wiesbaden.army.mil/C ... s1shop.htm
Just to be sure we are talking about the same S-1 shop.
http://www.3coscom.wiesbaden.army.mil/C ... s1shop.htm
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