Illegal Immigrants...

[johnerl91]

Today I found myself in a somewhat heated debate on my stand on illegal immigrants. I was wondering where some of you Rangers (and Ranger enthusiasists) stood on the subject.

[Jim]

It is illegal.
Don't make rules that are not enforced.

[Baseplate]

My lawn isn't going to mow itself.

[Silverback]

Today I found myself in a somewhat heated debate on my stand on illegal immigrants. I was wondering where some of you Rangers (and Ranger enthusiasists) stood on the subject.

How do you feel about it?

[C-MAC]

Two definitions and an explanation;

il·le·gal
   /ɪˈligəl/ Show Spelled[ih-lee-guhl] Show IPA
–adjective
1. forbidden by law or statute.
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cit·i·zen
   /ˈsɪtəzən, -sən/ Show Spelled[sit-uh-zuhn, -suhn] Show IPA
–noun
1.a native or naturalized member of a state or nation who owes allegiance to its government and is entitled to its protection ( distinguished from alien).

First sentence of the oath to become a citizen;

"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; "

I am a little confused on how your first act in the US is to break our laws on your way to pledging you will "defend our laws"? I guess the first one is a mulligan? Oh, and by the way- screw your neighbor who just entered the country legally after waiting years. You just cut the line. Not exactly a trustworthy or righteous way to enter our country. Sheesh and people wonder why illegals are 27% of the prison population? Past is prologue, that's why.

[johnerl91]

Ranger Silverback, my stand on it is that if you don't pay taxes don't reap the benefits of our government. Fairly simple concept, I believe.

[Flesh Thorn]

Yes, it is the illegal part that anyone with any common sense has a problem with. I have gotten to know some of the legal Chinese immigrants who run a restaurant here. They are hard working, conservative, and family oriented. I have even helped one of them study for his citizenship test. Allowing illegal immigration, besides being a security threat, is a kick in the face to the ones going about it the legal way which I understand is difficult.

[Baseplate]

I was kidding about my lawn, I dont have any grass. But maybe if it were a little easier to become a citizen then there may not be so many illegals. Plus a large portion of illegals work under a fake social and have taxes taken out of thier check even though they make so little they would recieve a refund they do not as thier social is fake. Plus someone has to pick the lettuce for my hamburger

[Flesh Thorn]

But maybe if it were a little easier to become a citizen then there may not be so many illegals.

True. If it was easier to make money then there wouldn't be as much theft.

[cams]

Obama's auntie Zutoomie has finally spoken out to the media about her 'stance' on her own legality. She makes no apologies and actually blames it on us, as Americans for letting it happen. (I assume she means the liberal doucherags that voted her illegal nephew into office.)

It's a two part interview on wbznews, should also be able to watch it wbznews.com

According to her, we need to 'leave her baby' alone (obama), and it is not her fault that she is an illegal living in public assisted housing and receiving benefits such as welfare and healthcare, while actual citizens have waited years for that same apt/help and did not get it, she did.

The same judge that ordered her to leave the country in '04, who she pretty much said "fuck you" too and kept collecting assistance from the People's Republic of Massachusetts, is the same judge that overturned her deportation order this go round. I wonder why?

And she has the balls to still show her face on tv wearing 400.00 sunglasses.

The illegals are making a mockery out of our country and our legal system just by protestation coupled with the liberal mantra of not wanting to offend anyone, and you have what we have here today, a soup sandwich for a country, soon to be just another 3rd world shithole.

[Baseplate]

But maybe if it were a little easier to become a citizen then there may not be so many illegals.

True. If it was easier to make money then there wouldn't be as much theft.

I meant to say it is much easier to just be here as an illeagal than to go through the 5 year process to be legal. If you come to the US and spend 25 years here illegally isn't that better than spending 5 here as a legal and getting shipped back to what ever shithole you come from?

[RangerLee]

My wife was an illegal alien when she came to the U.S. at age 3.
One of my really good friends IS an illegal alien, he came to the U.S. when days old.

What do you do in the case where you're a child, have no choice where your parents take you and live your whole life in America?

[Flesh Thorn]

I will not argue that logic, so we should just make it impossible to come here illegally or maybe at all depending upon what part of the globe they are from...........like Muslim shit holes. If caught here illegally, they should be branded with a big "I" right on the forehead before being deported..................to Iraq. Imagine the shock when illegals, thinking they are going back to Mexico or El Salvador, find themselves in Mesopotamia. :D

[Looon]

Mine the fucking boarder. Anyone that doesn't cross through an officially recognized crossing, they get shot or blown the fuck up. Men, women, and children. I don't give a fuck.