Question for the Guard guys

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Question for the Guard guys

Post by testedone »

Hello Rangers! Looking for some advice/opinions (I know they will vary)

I am looking at trying to get into a LRS unit, I found out I can but I have to take a reduction in rank from E5 to E4. Here is my quandary, I was prior service so I have a total of 12 years I "should" make E6 pretty soon at my current unit (Infantry)...my goal is within the next 4 years to go active, now if I can't pick up E6 or it is not possible within the next 3-4 years at a LRS unit then I can't go active because of RCP (retention Control Point)..

My concern is not to make rank because I am wanting to be a big shot, I just want to avoid the RCP if I do go active...

I ask because I assume that within a LRS unit being smaller and more specialized you don't get a lot of turn over so at least with the guard someone needs to retire etc..etc.. to open up billets..

Any advice?

Thanks

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What state are you in? What LRS unit are you trying to get into?
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Post by testedone »

I am in IL, the unit I am looking at is in IN. I spoke with a board member from another board (might be on this one also) who put me in contact with the recruiter for the area and he gave me a great list of options after he spoke with the RNCO for the unit.

The recruiter is also a member of the unit and has been great dealing with me on information.

Thing is I am on a try one with the ILARNG which is up in November so my timing is right...except.....we are supposed to mobilize soon...I don't mind going (I want to) but my career path is also of a concern.

my last 2 PT tests have been over 300 in my age bracket (43) and a score of 297 in the 17-21 scale so I need to improve some more...(can't seem to break the 79 situp point) :evil:

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It is different at every unit. We are currently expanding to company size in Texas. I know that they have said they'll take E-5 types but they have a time hack for being at minimum, reserved in ATRRS for Ranger school. If not, they have to find a new unit. I think it is 180 days. It's all on what you want really, but maybe that is something to bring up with them. I know they are transitioning to a company size and I doubt if they're filled up yet.
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Post by testedone »

yep, they are or have moved to a company size already.

I have no problem with trying to come up to speed quickly by going to RS & Airborne ...I would love it!! :shock:

My gut feeling is this and I can understand why...I think that going into an established LRS unit as an E5 and not being tabbed or airborne can make someone wonder if you have what it takes.. I remember when I was looking at (if I would have made it through) going to a seal team as an E6 (I was an E6 in BUD/S) I thought holly mackerla I have no experience...

I was told they are having tryouts for PL's soon and I should show up for that, just to show the section Sergeants what I got...

I hate to take a drop in rank but I guess if I have to I have to....decisions decisions...

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Testedone, if you have not joined the Guard before I highly recommend the "try it for a year option" It is what I did when I joined. At worst you can get out after a year if it isn't what you want. I insisted on keeping my rank when I joined (SGT) and it worked out great for me. I joined an aviation unit not LRS, but it was my second choice.
I can tell you more but I have my boy by myself today and he is going nuts on my keyboard. Hope this helps a bit!
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Post by testedone »

vossman wrote:Testedone, if you have not joined the Guard before I highly recommend the "try it for a year option" It is what I did when I joined. At worst you can get out after a year if it isn't what you want. I insisted on keeping my rank when I joined (SGT) and it worked out great for me. I joined an aviation unit not LRS, but it was my second choice.
I can tell you more but I have my boy by myself today and he is going nuts on my keyboard. Hope this helps a bit!
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Yes I am in the Guard now with a infantry company, problem is the company does not have any Airborne or ranger requirements...So I trying to get where I can best be used...because I love this stuff!!!

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Well I spoke with the folks at the unit I want to go to and we plan to proceed with the paperwork tomorrow to get me xfered over to the LRS unit...

Problem is I told my unit about my intentions and they said i am being stop lossed for the deployment at the end of August (no opsec here it is in the news)

problem I don't understand is that we are not under MOB orders yet and today was the first I was told we were stop lossed???


Is that possible?

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Well, maybe. There may be mob orders out there, but if this is the first you are hearing of it, you might call bullshit. I forget the exact time frame, but the stop loss starts at 90 days prior I THINK. Pretty cheese dick that they just tell you about it now.
Make them show you the orders or tell them to pack it up their ass. Hope it works out for you!
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Post by testedone »

I was told that it was 90 days prior to MOB, which we are at...but like you said this is the first I have heard we are stop loss.

I joined the National Guard on a Try one program...which the try one (1 year) is up in November.... So not sure if under the try one they can stop me.

Don't get me wrong I want to deploy but no matter how long I stay at my current unit I will never get a chance to go to airborne or Ranger and the LRS unit affords me that opportunity. After talking to a few guys from that unit I REALLY need to get to that unit :D I am taking a drop from E5 to E4 to get to the unit...

There has got to be a way...

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testedone wrote:Problem is I told my unit about my intentions and they said i am being stop lossed for the deployment at the end of August (no opsec here it is in the news)

problem I don't understand is that we are not under MOB orders yet and today was the first I was told we were stop lossed???


Is that possible?
They like most Guard Units are fucking liars, If your new unit is outside of 100 miles they can ETADIK, transfer. I did and never even went to my old unit to clear and my new unit was just down the road from the old one.
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The new unit is about 300 miles from me in another state....5-6 hour drive..


What is ETADIK

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testedone wrote: What is ETADIK
sound it out
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:roll:

Uh I get it....guess I was looking for the super secret acronym....

Thanks for straightening me out :oops:

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testedone wrote::roll:

Uh I get it....guess I was looking for the super secret acronym....

Thanks for straightening me out :oops:
Each of those letters do mean something, but you don't have a high enough security clearance to see the words. Most Rangers never see all the words, and are only allowed to see one word each. With cutouts and dead drops all the words may be assembled, but only a Presidential mandate will allow anyone to know the whole acronym.

Now that you have read this, remain in place. Someone will come by shortly and pick you up. By the way you have a stain on your shirt. Left side.


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